On Saturday 08 December 2001 10:03 am, Ian Bicking wrote: > tell that there were semantic differences in some instances. In the > case of Emacs, wrapped lines get cut off at exactly 80 (or whatever > width your window is), without any attention to word boundaries. I > imagine lots of editors are the same -- and if they *aren't* like > that, I'd be afraid of damaging my code by not realizing where the > newlines were.
Emacs wraps lines by character (instead of word) and AFAIK offers no option to not wrap. However, you can easily make the window bigger and most editors (UltraEdit, kate, wing, etc.) either allow a non-wrap mode or simply don't wrap in the first place. On Saturday 08 December 2001 12:16 pm, Tavis Rudd wrote: > That's the whole point, many tools are designed on this assumption > and have dockbars down the left side or use multiple vertical frames. > 80 might be a bit zealous, but code does get ugly in many tools when > wider than 80. I just tested this theory with emacs, kate and wingide. The code never gets ugly in kate and wingide, because they don't wrap. The code does get ugly in emacs because of wrapping. Not to mention the up and down arrow keys in emacs are paragraph-oriented instead of visible-line-oriented. (bleck) In general, I'm not seeing that tools are designed around the assumption that text files stop at 80 columns. In all three products, sizing the window to be wide enough for 130 characters actually felt excessive to me, but 110-120 felt fine. I have 19" monitor with 1152x864. The thing of it is, using editors that allow me to not wrap, I don't really care how long some code lines go on. Should we even dictate that code lines _must_ be wrapped at a column width? Is this another emacs-only issue? Feel free to speak up. But if we decide "yes", it will be something bigger and more modern than 80. On Saturday 08 December 2001 12:39 pm, Clark C . Evans wrote: > You forgot one... those of us with poor eyes > that are forced to use 80 columns and big monitors. That works fine in wingide as well. In fact I made the font size so large I could only see 70 columns. I could still see what was going on in Application.py and get around just fine. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Webware-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-devel
