On Thursday 20 June 2002 12:01 pm, Edmund Lian wrote:
> Ian and Tavis, thanks for the quick reply regarding single versus
> double quoted triplets. Seems to me though, that if the issue is
> Emacs can't understand triple quoted strings that use apostrophes,
> then Emacs should be fixed, not Python source code.
>
> Once everybody starts going down the path of adapting coding habits
> to the limitations and idiosyncracies of editors, there'll be no end
> of trouble. E.g., "oh, editor X doesn't handle Y well, so let's not
> use Y either, since we did the same for Emacs". I can't see any
> particular reason why one should favor helping Emacs over another
> editor...

Amen, brother! I totally agree, but as a minor concession, I yielded to 
the emacs zealots and gave the green light to switch to """. I hope the 
death threats stop now!  ;-)

The other change agreed upon, but probably not yet implemented is 
wrapping class and method doc strings to column 72 (in edits where 
tabs=4; col 80 whe tabs=8) in order for easier reading.


On Thursday 20 June 2002 12:27 pm, Edmund Lian wrote:
> Here's a cheeky comment (meant in fun): if Emacs has such a large
> constituency amongst Python coders, and if it is so extensible, why
> hasn't the problem been fixed? �:-) �OK, no flame wars please! �:-)

I love it! Edmund, these were the same things I was saying a while back 
when our emacs-abilities vs. python-syntax flamewar reached the kind of 
proportions where we lost subscribers.

Not that I loved that last part.

But it is interesting to note that Emacs being open source and both 
products having been around for years, Emacs still can't handle a 
proper Python file.


On Thursday 20 June 2002 12:36 pm, Edmund Lian wrote:
> The thing that bugs me more, actually, is the tabs vs spaces issue
> since this actually has semantic implications. I've been caught out
> more than once by someone else's code using tabs, (or worse, a
> mixture of tabs and spaces). Now, this is worth a good fight or two!

Ah, but that's the one I didn't concede. Also, note that we do NOT use 
a mixture, which is the ultimate Python sin.


> Actually, up until about a year ago, I used Emacs 100% of the time. I
> eventually got tired of the bloat and need to do finger-gymnastics on
> the keyboard to get anything done. It was quite hard to switch to
> vim, but I'm glad that I took the time.

But now you have let me down! VIM????

;-)


I personally recommend:
  Kate on linux
  UltraEdit on windows
  or:
  SciTE on *

And of course, don't forget to support the WingIDE guys!

http://archaeopteryx.com/


-Chuck


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