On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 06:50:25PM -0500, Ian Bicking wrote:
> > As long as those of us who use text editors don't suffer because of
> > it; i.e., the WYSIWYG features must be optional and not mandatory.
>
> I really think they *must* be mandatory, but hopefully we can find
> something that is useful for everyone. I think they have to be
> mandatory because otherwise it is hard for WYSIWYG and text users to
> interact -- and I think that is one of the essential aspects of a good
> template language. This is why I think newlines can't be relied upon
> -- but it's not like newline is a magical character that has
> tremendous benefits over all other characters.
>
> Somewhere I think the Right Syntax exists. I'm merely encouraging us
> not to stop without finding it.
Well, if it's just a matter of adding ";#" to the end of command lines,
I don't have a problem with that.
> I very much prefer
> <img src="sampleface.gif" replaceattribute="src=faceimage"> because
> not only does it work with WYSIWYG editors, there's a lot of other
> tools that work better this way (page-size-checkers and
> height-width-inserters, for instance).
Perhaps something like that can be worked out. One caveat, however, is
that using one attribute to replace another would only work with HTML
and XML templates, and TS would no longer be application-neutral.
> And even XML isn't *all* bad. The composition tools probably will
> exist eventually -- basically, a decent editor that uses CSS to
> enhance the structure, and a highly configurable interface that
> exposes concrete controls for the specific DTD you are working with.
> Maybe people are trying to be too general with these tools, and not
> realizing that composing XML can never be done in both a general and
> accessible fashion.
Perhaps. I still think XML is fascinating, and it has been put to some
really ingenious uses. It's great when you have to interchange data
with somebody else's unknown software. However, for Python
databases will only really be used with Python, XML oftentimes comes up
seeming like overkill when you can just use the Python parser, rfc822,
ConfigParser or CSV instead.
> PS is lists.sourceforge.net messed up in some fashion?
For the past two days, all my posts have been delayed by at least 30
minutes and once by 11 hours.
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