Well, as far as mod_webkit is concerned, if apache has access to the header, we can get it. Just gotts figure out how.
What does the HTTP 1.1 spec say about this? Jay > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Esterbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Webware-discuss] HEAD? > > > On Thursday 14 March 2002 04:16 pm, Chuck Esterbrook wrote: > > On Wednesday 13 March 2002 10:43 am, Chuck Esterbrook wrote: > > > I just looked at my apache access_log and all the requests for the > > > style sheet are GET and POST. No HEAD: > > > > > > 68.5.28.172 - - [13/Mar/2002:13:23:12 -0500] "GET /StyleSheet.css > > > HTTP/1.1" 200 10928 > > > > > > > > > I was expecting HEAD for StyleSheet.css since it is just a static > > > file being served by UnknownFileTypeServlet. > > > > > > A grep for HEAD reveals no more HEAD requests after March 5th. And > > > the few HEADs that occurred were for anything but the StyleSheet. > > > This adds 10K per request and will slow down my app server. > > > > Okay, the deal is that the GET from modern browsers is > accompanied by > > an If-Modified-Since header (so they don't bother with HEAD). I > > checked this out using Mozilla, Apache and a static .html > file served > > directly. The requests are always GET, but the subsequent responses > > return 0 bytes of document. > > > > Having dumped the attrs of HTTPRequest, I don't see that it has > > access to that information, or even the request headers in > general. I > > also don't find any source code in webware referencing > "modified" and > > "since" in the same line. > > > > I presume that we can somehow get this out of mod_webkit, > but I don't > > know about CGI. > > > > I'll investigate further tonight. > > Bottom line: Most browsers use a "conditional GET" such as a GET with > an If-Modified-Since: header as opposed to the old "HEAD and GET" > technique. However on Apache, the If-Modified-Since HTTP header does > not get passed to WebKit (via mod_webkit or CGI), so for static files > such as a style sheet, WebKit sends the full content every time. > > One workaround would be to put your static files outside your webkit > location. For my special case of a style sheet, I may just may use a > symbolic link that points to its current location. > > > Here is some of the research I did (mostly via Google): > > - I found that some HTTP servers will offer an HTTP_IF_MODIFIED_SINCE > to their CGI scripts, but Apache does not. > > - Searching for HTTP_IF_MODIFIED_SINCE hit a lot of PHP sites > that were > dumping globals, but when I visited the pages (and reloaded) > HTTP_IF_MODIFIED_SINCE was missing. Perhaps it was available in an > earlier version of either Apache or PHP. > > - The only examples of being able to hook into If-Modified-Since were > things (such as mod_perl) that lived in Apache. But the hook I saw > wasn't to get the value, but call a function with higher level > semantics. > > - It might be possible to tweak Apache to include > HTTP_IF_MODIFIED_SINCE, but I'm suspicious that it's not already done > or at least available as a patch. There might be some special > treatment > of this header by Apache that make it infeasible. > > - Apache 2.0? > > > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Webware-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss
