Hi,
Ian Bicking hat gesagt: // Ian Bicking wrote:

> In my own Wiki, I tried to create a Wiki markup that was translatable to
> HTML and back again -- so that the Wiki markup wasn't the canonical
> representation, the HTML was.  There were some bugs in it (with lists, I
> think) -- you can see a bit more at http://wiki.colorstudy.com -- but it
> seemed like something of a beginning.  

I know your Wiki a bit, but unfortunately I couldn't install it
correctly. There were  some errors with modules not found, that I
could solve somehow with symbolic links like "Local -> lib/Local", I
don't remember the details. But then I didn't dig deeper, because on
my webspace I don't have the MySQL Python module and the Python devel
packages neither: my webmaster is a Perl guy :( 

That's why I looked for a simple, DB-less solution. I'm actually not
too happy with PyDiddy, because everything is so tied up into one
class. I like your modular, more OO'ish approach more, it's easier to
extend. I do like the name of my Wiki more, of course :)

> My interest in Wikis has been revived lately, and I'm particularly
> interested in using them as the basis for a CMS system.  I'd like to see
> the richness of something like MoinMoin, in with the added functionality
> being more encapsulated... instead of creating an extensible Wiki
> language, creating a richer namespace where all pages aren't Wiki-style
> pages (e.g., to create a comment board, maybe you'd "transclude" a
> another page, and that target page would be plugged into a comment
> module).  As a CMS, of course, you'd also have to offer some sort of
> hardening, templates, and all sorts of other features... but while those
> are all work, they all seem pretty straight-forward.

This sounds very interesting, although there might be some fundamental
differences between a Wiki and a CMS. For example in a CMS you have a
Workflow and Delayed Publishing, something you could of course build
into a Wiki, but it would somehow be against the whole idea of a Wiki.
Then in a CMS you need (invisible) meta information, while in a Wiki
the only meta information is always visible in the form of embedded
links.

But I think, that a Wiki could form a great demonstration app for
Webware in general. Webware is something, that is easily explained to
developers, but if a normal user installs Webware, there is nothing to
see right away. Is this a CMS, how do I use it? - he might ask, but
other than the Example pages there is nothing to see. Maybe Webware
should come with a Wiki or something similar right from the start?

ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__


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