That's a good list -- it would probably belong more to the installation documentation, which is separate (though it needs work too). The choices are mostly pragmatic. But it's a vague line -- obviously, setting up various AppServers and such is an installation issue as well, and ApplicationDevelopment.txt could flow in either direction (towards setting Webware up, or towards developing Webware/Python web applications). I'm making another document (WebKit/Docs/Tutorial.txt) which covers the web application portion -- though for an inexperienced user.

Actually, I guess it's that there's two kinds of documents -- one which describes how you can do something (reference), and one which suggests how you should do something (a guide). ApplicationDevelopment is intended to be a guide, and as such could probably cover most of installation, but in a non-complete manner. In my opinion, only mod_webkit and wkcgi are worth introducing (though I haven't used standalone PSP pages, so I don't know about how that should best work). Some mod_rewrite documentation should also be included (I believe Quixote has some). Then we'd ignore thinks like WebKit.cgi, OneShot.cgi, ModPythonAdapter.py, etc. Those are options, but for 95%+ of people mod_webkit or wkcgi are the right solution, and so I think they should be emphasized.

Complete (and structured) reference documentation is also very important, but that's another issue...


On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 01:49 PM, Stuart Donaldson wrote:
Ian, Looks good, here are some comments.

There are a couple of significantly different ways to setup and run Webware.

1) Use of global access to Webware with mod_webkit and httpd.conf
referring a path such as /WK to Webware.

2) Use of global access to Webware/PSP with mod_webkit and
httpd.conf redirecting .psp pages to Webware. However this
does not currently work with PSP documents under ~user
locations.

3) Localized access where the .htaccess file redirects references
through the webkit-handler. Requires mod_webkit be installed
globally in httpd.conf but allows .htaccess references to
unique Webware AppServer by specifying the port to use. Note
that this may currently have problems with ~user expansion too.

4) Localized access to PSP through psp-handler references
in .htaccess file. Requires mod_webkit be installed globally
but allows .htaccess to reference a unique AppServer instance
by specifying the port to use. Note that this is broken
currently when using ~user expansion, but a fix is in the works.

5) Access through WebKit.cgi. I am not clear of the issues here
but believe there may be some problems with ~user expansion
here as well.

6) Access through OneShot.cgi

The options 1 and 2 above seem to be common. However I believe that the
other options also have value, especially if an ISP wants to offer Webware,
and allow users to reference their own instance of Webware.
The problems I pointed out with the ~user expansion tell me that currently,
not many people are trying to use it in that type of an environment. But I
think the potential for large scale use there is high.

I think it would be useful for the descriptions of setting up the
environment to outline the various ways in which Webware can be invoked, and
provide a brief description.

Also, given the discussions around referencing python vs python2, and the
requirement for python2, I think this should be clearly addressed.
Unfortunately some distro's (RedHat) have "python" invoking python 1.5.2
still. That will cause problems for someone unless we automagically fix it
to reference python2.

-Stuart-

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