On Monday 24 February 2003 05:19 am, Clark C. Evans wrote:
> As far as the "model", I think I like the twisted model of a
> "request" and "resource" better than Webware's model.  I was always
> uncomfortable with the extra abstractions that Webware has and feel
> that Webware's attempts to do nice things for you get in the way
> more often than they actually help.  To the credit of
> FreeBSD/Apache/PostgreSQL/Webware, I have a process that's been
> up for 4-5 months now without a restart...

I'm curious about this comment. I tried to keep servlet/request/response 
fairly straightforward and simple. What about WebKit servlets or other 
aspects of Webware in general do think could be simplified? Please let 
me know!

This is what I was going for:    :-)
On Monday 24 February 2003 11:06 am, Aaron Held wrote:
> Webware is like Python, it only wants to handle your logic, let the
> details be managed by native apps that do it better and provide a
> 'pythonic' interface.


On Monday 24 February 2003 05:19 am, Clark C. Evans wrote:
> That said, I wanted "ftp" support for my next app and I'd rather
> not have it in a separate process.  Also, I want to have a single
> process rather than using Apache.  So, this is what is currently
> attracting me to Twisted -- I guess it's the clutter that I do
> find useful.  *grin*.

I never want my web and app servers to be merged in my production apps. 
I find it useful to be able to restart the app server or even shut it 
down for a few seconds while I fix something. Because the adapters in 
the web server try to contact the app server several times, the 
visitors to my site get a long delay instead of an error.

I also leverage Apache for doing various things like rewriting URLs, 
compressing content, etc. I don't see much point in duplicating those 
abilities in Python when they already work elsewhere.

Although I'm by no means opposed to adding more protocols to the app 
server. We're already doing HTTP via Ian's earlier contrib.

I don't have any Twisted comments as I haven't used their product.


-Chuck


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