Ian Bicking [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I would also like to see a standard "container". I don't think it even > has to be terribly intrusive or conformist -- it just has to create > request and response objects, and map those to some "resource", which > would be somewhat more abstract than servlets.
My private experiments suggest that it isn't that hard to make an abstraction layer for Webware and mod_python - in these cases, the main differences are where one finds certain facilities (eg. request and response streams, content type and encoding information) and whether those facilities are implemented by separate objects or not. Providing an environment for a Webware-style plug-in (which takes responsibility for certain resource types) within mod_python isn't an insurmountable problem either, and I'm convinced that there's enough common ground in Twisted and Zope to cover those frameworks as well. Under the covers, in Zope Products, Zope isn't so different after all. > I was trying to pursue this kind of unification after PyCon, but I'm > afraid I lost momentum, and actually writing code is much more > satisfying than trying to organize stuff. I'd still like to pursue it, > though. The "shootout" paper was certainly very interesting, and recent coverage of Twisted Web suggests that it wouldn't be absolutely necessary to put the whole of Webware on top of Twisted to get a decent application environment with a different execution model: http://twistedmatrix.com/users/nafai/pycon-paper/tw_deploy-01.html That would be compelling: a common environment which runs on servers with completely different underlying "scalability" models (threads, processes, asynchronous tasks) - I doubt that there's such diversity between the mainstream Java application servers. > I've been working on a component idea, for adding functionality to > servlets -- a bit finer grained than plugins. It's in the Webware > sandbox (webware-sandbox.sf.net), in ianbicking/Component, with a user > authentication component as an example. I've also used it for (my still > in heavy development) form processing toolkit, in FormEncode, also in > the Sandbox. Perhaps I should get around to looking at this as well. Paul ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 _______________________________________________ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss
