Re: [Webware-discuss] Re: [Cheetahtemplate-discuss] Re: cheetah not thread safe

[Aaron Held]

Geoffrey Talvola wrote: Tripp Lilley wrote: It's actually easier to implement this than it sounds... When a request comes in for a pool object, the pool looks for an existing instance. If there are no existing instances, it doesn't -immediately- create one. Rather, it waits a specified time for an existing instance to become available, and, if not, -then- creates a new one. This puts an upper bound on the time a client will have to wait for a handler. This timeout is pretty easy to implement using a lock.wait(timeout) call on a lock that represents instance availability in the pool's internal queue. Discarding extra pool instances is left as an exercise to the reader :) I'm not conviced that a dynamic algorithm is better than just using a fixed pool (assuming we're talking about threads, or servlet instances). Your box has to have enough memory and horsepower to handle the worse case of a maxed-out pool, right? If that's the case, then why not just allocate the maximum right up front (or let the pools grow as needed like the servlet pools)? Surely having some extra threads or extra instances lying around doesn't noticeably hurt performance. Also, having to allocate extra instances or threads to handle a surge of activity is bound to be somewhat costly just at the time when you need the CPU to actually _handle_ the requests. When I deploy WebKit I set the minimum, maximum, and initial thread pool sizes to the same value. Can someone convince me why this is a bad idea? - Geoff FYI, This is how Netware (4.xx) used to work. Any process could cause the OS the spawn threads as needed and it was assumed that if you hit a peak load once you would hit it again - so leave the threads running.  And if some less ethical resellers used the max threads as a reason to buy a bigger server for the customer at least they never mentioned the vendor hardware engineer pointed that out.  It was really tought to sell new netware servers back in the day since they always worked and customers never really needed to upgrade... One guy wanted to stick with Netware 3 even after 5 came out - but I digress.... I agree w/ letting the pool stay at its max value, but that should be documented if the change is made.  There have already been a number of posts about Webware running 24 threads when no-one is using it. -Aaron ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 _______________________________________________ Cheetahtemplate-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cheetahtemplate-discuss -- -Aaron http://www.MetroNY.com/ "I don't know what's wrong with my television set. I was getting C-Span and the Home Shopping Network on the same station. I actually bought a congressman." - Bruce Baum