--> Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 3:24:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Webware doesn't time anything out (maybe to its detriment -- though I
> don't know if there's any good way to do a timeout in a threaded 
> environment anyway).  I don't know if there's any way to put a timeout 
> on a particular socket.  If there is, Webware doesn't do it (or leaves 
> it at the default timeout).

I would think there are. Perhaps they are not available to Python.
Perhaps this explains my experience with Python TCP/IP in Windows.

I tried Python for TCP/IP development in Windows one time and experienced
hugely obscure bugs in an application which transferred around 50 thousand
data files daily. The errors *were* rare and messages hilariously useless.

After 4 fulls days of trying to find the problem, I ported my code to Delphi
rather easily and the errors were gone completely. I never got to use Python
at that employer again and haven't trusted it completely for TCP/IP since.

> In this case Apache is probably timing out.

>> Then again, I was once flamed by Webware advocates for explaining PHP's
>> helpful handling of form variables, such as naming them with [] postfixed
>> to put multiple into an array. Next thing you know I am checking out
>> WebWare and see very nearly the same abstract concept in form variable
>> actions prefixed with _. So you never know, and that is why I mentioned
>> the third.

> Actions are done with the _action_X form variable, but confirmed with 
> the servlet's actions() method.  So the client never invokes something 
> that wasn't explicitly permitted by the developer.  In this case the 
> configuration (if it existed) would best be put directly in the 
> servlet, as per-request configuration (as opposed to per-servlet) seems 
> unlikely.

Yes I know actions must be defined in the servlet quite obviously for
security measures. Postfixing with [] in PHP doesn't come close to that type
of security vulnerability. I was flamed because the convention existed, not
because of any possible security vulnerability, then come to find similar
conventions in Webware (even less elegant imho). That's all I was saying.

-Kai



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