I agree with everything Ian said here.

-Chuck
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:06:29 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote:
> Todd Grimason wrote:
>> This was discussed in regards to a logo for Python overall, to
>> the point that heads exploded, but I'll mention it anyway:
>>
>> You generally need to decide whom your logo is meant to appeal
>> to, and what values it should relay.
>>
>> [Here I would cut and paste 987906 emails from the marketing list]
>>
>>
>> In short - if the goal is to be taken more seriously, and
>> "professional", I'd vote against cartoon-ish approaches. Yes,
>> even to the point of "boring", though hopefully not.
>>
>
> Realistically, Webware isn't going to appeal to the people that a
> corporate logo would appeal to.  Webware has the potential to bring
> in developers who are enthusiastic about Python.  Those developers
> may, in turn, convince boring corporate types.  But the boring
> corporate types just don't hang out in the same circles as Webware.
>  They probably don't even appreciate where Webware sits in the
> stack of tools a developer would use.
>
>> If the point is just a catchy logo other Python programmers will
>> appreciate, then it's less vital - though if their usage is
>> dependent on departmental approval, it still matters.
>>
>
> We don't have any corporate backing or much of that appeal, but we
> can still appeal to management types that have an appreciation for
> open source software and the environment that entails.  That's my
> evaluation of Webware's appeal strictly on a technical level.
>
> In that light, Webware needs not to show that it is corporate, but
> that it is alive and actively supported.  And even if there's not a
> huge amount of active development of the Webware core, it *is*
> consistently supported by the community on this list.  And an
> enlightened manager *will* still be concerned about the viability
> of the project.
>
> From that perspective an irreverent logo doesn't really hurt --
> what you really need to show is that there's some care and effort.
> A quite valid criticism is that currently the Webware site doesn't
> show that. So I think it's more important to do *something* rather
> than the "right" thing.  Personally, this logo is the one I like
> best so far.  But I wouldn't veto another logo.
>
>
>> Just thought I'd shortcut things here so we don't repeat that
>> long long thread.




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