One further thought on Noel's ideas.
 
If there is a requirement that each member of an OHCA have its own Privacy Officer, I don't believe that this Privacy Officer has to be a unique individual for each member, so that the same person could be the Privacy Officer for the group.  I think that this person could even be paid by the OHCA (it may have to be arranged as each member hiring the services of an outside contractor).
 
The opinions expressed here are my own and not necessarily the opinion of LCMH.
 
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Little Company of Mary Hospital & Health Care Centers
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: OCHA Answer and Disclosure Question

I like your answer since it confirms some of my thoughts.  We joined the OHCA just to make sure there would be no problems with credentialing, peer review, etc.  We also thought sharing the NPP and policies would be a nice gesture to our medical staff so we would carry the burden of getting all of the paperwork done and then they could just modify it to meet their needs instead of creating it all from scratch.  Downsides to OHCA......hm....hope there's not too many, but maybe it makes the hospital more liable when a physician violates the NPP or HIPAA in general?

>>> "Noel Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/07/03 12:17PM >>>
Here are my thought on OHCA's but they are just that.  I have no experience
with OHCA's and would love for someone to tell me if they agree or disagree. 
I would only ask that you please cite the applicable section of the rule,
preamble, or guidance document that supports your position:

The only places I can find OHCA's even mentioned in the rule, other than the
definition of an OHCA are:
 
Section 164.520(d) says participants in an OHCA can have a joint notice and
distribution by one member of the OHCA is sufficient to fulfill the
distribution requirements of all members of the OHCA

Section 164.506(c)(5) says members of an OHCA can exchange PHI for ANY health
care operations, instead of the more limited health care operations allowed
under section 164.506(c)(4).

Is anyone aware of any other references to OHCA's in the rule?

Applying these two citations to the questions in this thread, including the
original ones asked by Patricia Conroe, here are my thoughts:

Do requests to exercise patient rights submitted to one member of an OHCA
apply to all?  I would say no.  I cannot find any citation in the sections on
patients rights to support otherwise.  Except if a patient amends their PHI a
covered entity must inform other affected by the amendment which I think
would naturally include any other memebers of an OHCA that the CE
participates in.  But with regard to rights such as restrictions on U&D or
alternate communications, I believe the individual would have to submit the
same request separately to each member of the OHCA.

Aren't we already allowed to disclose PHI to other CE's in our OHCA under the
rule that allows disclosure for TPO?  Yes but with some limitation.  The rule
allows disclosure of PHI by a CE for their OWN TPO, which under section
164.506(c) is extended to include treatment of OTHER providers, payment of
OTHER providers, and only CERTAIN operations of OTHER covered entities as
limited by section 164.506(c)(4)(i) and (ii).  By participating in an OHCA
you will get the added benefit of being able to share PHI with other members
of the OHCA for ANY health care operations purposes.

Does each member of the OHCA have to identify their own Privacy Official and
Contact Official in the NPP?  I do not see any provision that allows OHCA's
to share these roles so I assume each member of the OHCA needs to have their
own, and therefore any joint Notice prepared for the OHCA would have to
identify the Privacy Official and Contact Official for EACH member of the
OHCA.

The bottom line of all this is that the only real benefit I see in joining an
OHCA is it may simplify distributino of your NPP.  For example, I have a
client who is an interventional cardiologist.  Aside from seeing patients in
his office he also performs procedures at a local hospital.  The hospital
checks in the patient, provides the nursing staff, etc, so I believe the
procedures he performs at the hospital would qualify as delivery of care in
a "clinically integrated setting" therefore his practice could form an OHCA
with the hospital.  The only benefit I see in doing this is from time to time
he is called by the hospital to come see a patient he has not previously seen
in his office.  If he were not in an OHCA with the hospital, he would have to
carry around a bunch of copies of his NPP and acknowledgment forms so he
could hand them out to the patient when he sees them (assuming he is not in
an emergency situation, and assuming he is not just consulting as a provider
with an "indirect" treatment relationship).  By being in the OHCA he is
relieved of the responsibility to deliver notice assuming the hospital has
already done so.

If anyone else can explain any other benefits of joining an OHCA I'd love to
know what they are?

I'd also like to know what people perceive to be the down side(s) of joining
an OHCA?

Thanks,

Noel Chang

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From: Kathy Findley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:30:16 -0500
Subject: OCHA Answer and Disclosure Question

> Hello All!
> Recently I asked a question about members of an Organized Health Care
> Agreement and the issue of naming their Privacy Officer or Contact
> Person in a "joint" Notice of Privacy Practices? Further reading has
> indicated that each entity would have to have their own Privacy
> Officer, conduct their own training etc. (unless mutually agreed
> upon etc.) If anyone disagrees, please let me know.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about the following scenerio?
>
> Several hospitals in this area are partial owners of a centralized "lab".
> The Infection Control departments of all of these hospitals are requesting
> from the lab, a regular listing of patients who test positive for
> VRE and MRSA (whether those patients are   currently in their
> hospital or not).  Is it allowable for the lab to provide these
> lists to their "owner" hospitals as part of treatment or some other
> law, or would the minimum necessary apply limiting that release to
> only the hospitals who have the patient at this time?
>
> Thank you for any advice.
> kf
>
> Kathy Findley
> Coordinator - Information Services and HIPAA
> St. Joseph's Hospital Health Center
> Phone - (315) 448-6111
> Beeper - (315) 467-4180
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