While I agree with most of what William has explained ... I am a little
"fuzzy" on how that explanation answers "disclosure" of PHI outside of TPO? 

I believe that is what the provider customers, as described, would be
concerned about.  Does medical transcription and coding services fall under
TPO?  If not, the provider is bound by NPP to disclose to the patient the
disclosure of the PHI, when, where, why, etc.?  Thoughts?

Ruth Tucci-Kaufhold 
HIPAA Systems Analyst 

Co-Founder MAHI 
UNISYS Corporation 
4050 Innslake Drive 
Suite 202 
Glen Allen, VA  23060 
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-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:39 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List
Subject: Re: Can someone assist me in this topic?


The WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List would be the appropriate place to
ask questions regarding the HIPAA Privacy Rule.

A covered entity provider is required to have a business associate
agreement with Fast Medical Reports. The provider is not to continue
using a business associate if it has any reason to believe the BA is not
abiding by the BAA to take as good care of the patients' PHI (as the
provider is, compelled by law). Likewise, business associates should
themselves have appropriate safeguards and contracts in place with their
own contractors. This ensures your own contractors don't put you in
danger of indirectly violating the BA agreement with the provider.
Neither you nor your overseas contractors are bound by HIPAA - only by
BA agreements, contracts and other applicable law - since you are not
HIPAA covered entities.

Neither Fast Medical Reports nor the provider are obligated to inform
patients that their records are being manipulated offshore. But the
provider has every right to know who your subcontractors are, though,
since he is directly accountable to HIPAA regulators for any misuse of
PHI.

India is not Indiana. Is there any reason to believe Fast Medical
Reports would be able to enforce its own contracts with Indian offshore
subcontractors? If India had a reliable legal system with an
infrastructure of trust comparable to those of the U.S. or Canada, it
would have long ceased to be a Third World country - and probably would
not have large labor cost differentials to export. If for some reason
there were a problem, Fast Medical Reports would probably be left
holding the bag (financially) for the actions of its Indian
subcontractor.

Your rationale for outsourcing is much the same any American company
chooses that course: the savings may not be that much for each
transcription (or shoe or dress or piece of computer software code), but
when all lumped together, provide handsome bonuses for executive
management.

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WEDI SNIP Privacy Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2003 12:50 PM
Subject: Can someone assist me in this topic?

I was told that this group might be able to help me with some
interpretation of an issue I'm facing. I have just subscribed so pardon
me if this is the wrong forum

We provide medical transcription and coding services to physician
practices. To give our clients a little better price, our transcription
and coding is provided by a company that produces does the work in
India.

Our dilemma is that we are in a debate with a couple of the practices
over disclosure of the organizations that are involved in the business
functions. The practices say that they are obligated by law to disclose
to the patients that their records are across seas with companies who
are not governed by US laws and regulations. I suggest that it may be an
ethical question but not a legal requirement.

My concern is possible public backlash that would force us to produce
the transcription here in the US. Although the savings are not
significant on individual accounts for us to send it over seas, they do
add up when all put together. I'd have to raise my prices to produce it
here.

Is a physician or practice legally required to notify the patients that
their records are being processed outside of the US by companies or
individuals who aren't necessarily bound by HIPAA?

Thank you kindly for your assistance.

Melissa

Fast Medical Reports
California


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