RE: TRANSACTION 834 QUESTION ON IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE

[Bill Chessman]

There have been a number of respondents who've noted that the "Optional" designator comes from the base X12 standard and "Required" is from the implementation guide (which takes precedence).  One other point that might be made is that the IG's "required" designation does not violate the underlying X12 transaction set in the least.  If something is Optional in X12 but always appears in the resulting data stream (owing to the restrictions of the IG), the transaction set still fits within the X12 definition.  Thus it is compliant with the IG and the base standard.   On the other hand, if X12 had defined something as mandatory, an IG could not make that item "situational" or "not used" because omission of it would violate the base X12 standard.   Does that make sense?   Best regards, Bill Chessman Inovis(tm), Inc. (formerly Harbinger and Extricity) -----Original Message----- From: Bard, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:56 AM To: WEDI SNIP Transactions Workgroup List Subject: FW: TRANSACTION 834 QUESTION ON IMPLEMENTATION GUIDE I was teaching a class on how to read the Implementation Guides and ran across something that I hope this ListServ can clarify.   In the Data Element Diagram, INS03 is bolded which means it is required.  It indicates it is required but the attribute (requirement Designator) states it is an 'O' which I though meant Optional.  Same applies to INS05- Indicates it is required but Attribute is defined as Optional.     Greg Bard NASCO HIPAA Privacy and Security Project Manager (W) 678.441.6059 (F)  678.441.6359 [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ______________________________________________________________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this message (and the documents attached to it, if any) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken, or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message (and the documents attached to it, if any), destroy any hard copies you may have created and notify me immediately. Thank you.           --- The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. These listservs should not be used for commercial marketing purposes or discussion of specific vendor products and services. They also are not intended to be used as a forum for personal disagreements or unprofessional communication at any time. You are currently subscribed to wedi-transactions as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this list, go to the Subscribe/Unsubscribe form at http://subscribe.wedi.org or send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need to unsubscribe but your current email address is not the same as the address subscribed to the list, please use the Subscribe/Unsubscribe form at http://subscribe.wedi.org --- The WEDI SNIP listserv to which you are subscribed is not moderated. The discussions on this listserv therefore represent the views of the individual participants, and do not necessarily represent the views of the WEDI Board of Directors nor WEDI SNIP. If you wish to receive an official opinion, post your question to the WEDI SNIP Issues Database at http://snip.wedi.org/tracking/. These listservs should not be used for commercial marketing purposes or discussion of specific vendor products and services. They also are not intended to be used as a forum for personal disagreements or unprofessional communication at any time. You are currently subscribed to wedi-transactions as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this list, go to the Subscribe/Unsubscribe form at http://subscribe.wedi.org or send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you need to unsubscribe but your current email address is not the same as the address subscribed to the list, please use the Subscribe/Unsubscribe form at http://subscribe.wedi.org