Sorry. I should have prefaced my comments that they pertain to SQLite. I
have no experience with MySQL.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:52 AM d k <[email protected]> wrote:

> The size of the indexes on the archive table are <51mb in both cases.
> There is no difference here. I totally agree.
>
> I think the reason you don't see a difference in size is because of how
> null values are stored, I think in 1 byte but haven't found a reference. So
> yes even if you remove 20 unused types you only remove 20 bytes which as
> you point out is nothing. But the extra columns still affect read and write
> performance. Write isn't a big big deal as we don't do lots of writes
> anyway. But we might do lots of reads depending on what we are doing with
> our station data and we probably are all running this on inexpensive slow
> hardware. In my case a RPi but a new one which isn't all that slow other
> than if you're comparing it to something else that's new. But, for instance
> it still cut the time to make the daily summiers by more than half. Again
> not like we do that often so not a huge deal.
>
> This is where the real change probably came from. I also changed the data
> types of the observations from double (8 bytes) to float (4 bytes). Mysql
> made the sqllite data type doubles instead of floats. I don't have
> REAL_AS_FLOAT set and that's my fault.
>
> I am going to move to FLOAT(n) and set the precision on the columns next
> which won't change the row length, as the columns are all still 4 bytes,
> but to make things easier when I use other applications against this data
> set.
>
> In my case the length of the data went from ~1.1 gb to <650mb in this
> case. It also reduced the size of the binlogs, which get purged anyway. It
> also reduced the size of the *ib* files. It cut the time to and size of
> dumping the table almost by half, I haven't tried restoring yet but expect
> the same. Queries run faster.
>
> In my opinion there are other reasons to trim the schema to fit your needs
> other than the size of the data file. But yes it's more work and that
> depends on how you use your data if it's worth it or not. Obviously I think
> it's worth it and YMMV.
>
> -dk
> On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 9:01:49 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Trimming the schema  does not make as big a difference in database size
>> as you might think.
>>
>> For example, using my own database of 1.4M rows, trimming the schema from
>> 48 observation types to 27, reduces the size from 268MB to 201MB.
>>
>> The reason is that most of the space is taken up by the indexes, not the
>> column data.
>>
>> -tk
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 8:02 PM d k <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yup.. I just found that and was about to report back I was trying it
>>> that was it. Just restarted the test system to see if it went away. I think
>>> I got rid of all of them now.
>>>
>>> Gary you are the best.  Thanks so much.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 10:54:27 PM UTC-4 gjr80 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> First up, thank you for not posting images of text, it’s makes
>>>> reading/searching logs a real pain.
>>>>
>>>> The error is due to a skin trying to generate a plot that involves
>>>> extraTemp1 and from the short log extract I would guess that this is
>>>> from the Seasons skin. If you look in the Seasons skin config file
>>>> (skins/Seasons/skin.conf) under [ImageGenerator] you will find the daytemp,
>>>> weektemp, monthtemp and yeartemp plots use extraTemp1 (and extraTemp2 and
>>>> extraTemp3). Easiest fix is to comment out those plots, eg:
>>>>
>>>> #      [[[daytemp]]]
>>>> #           yscale = None, None, 0.5
>>>> #           [[[[extraTemp1]]]]
>>>> #           [[[[extraTemp2]]]]
>>>> #           [[[[extraTemp3]]]]
>>>>
>>>> Save skin.conf and the error should go away on the next report cycle.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>> On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 12:29:14 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I tried to post this as an image but it doesn't show. So here is the
>>>>> text.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>> Caught unrecoverable exception in generator
>>>>> 'weewx.imagegenerator.ImageGenerator'
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****  extraTemp1
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****  Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/reportengine.py", line 197, 
>>>>> in
>>>>> run
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****      obj.start()
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/reportengine.py", line 280, 
>>>>> in
>>>>> start
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****      self.run()
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/imagegenerator.py", line 41,
>>>>> in run
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****      self.genImages(self.gen_ts)
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/imagegenerator.py", line 176,
>>>>> in genImages
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****      start_vec_t, stop_vec_t ,data_vec_t =
>>>>> weewx.xtypes.get_series(var_type,
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****    File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/xtypes.py", line 91, in
>>>>> get_series
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****      raise weewx.UnknownType(obs_type)
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****  weewx.UnknownType: extraTemp1
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] ERROR weewx.reportengine:
>>>>>         ****  Generator terminated
>>>>> Oct  8 20:03:19 prometis weewx[271870] DEBUG weewx.reportengine:
>>>>> Report 'SmartphoneReport' not enabled. Skipping.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 9:39:14 PM UTC-4 Duane Kerzic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all the help you provided last time around. Thanks in
>>>>>> advance this time for your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to clean up weewx.archive table and make it a bit smaller.
>>>>>> So I deleted the columns I don't think I'll ever use. But now I'm getting
>>>>>> this in the system log.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing that extraTemp1 is coded into one of those files but I
>>>>>> haven't looked to find out yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've shortened the average row length of the archive table to 126
>>>>>> from 217 bytes. Huge difference when you have 10 years of data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -dk
>>>>>>
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