Running the simulator and looping through "*make a change, manually run 
wee_reports, check the log, check the results*" works pretty well as one 
way of doing it.   I don't think you even need weewx running to do that.   
I typically just spin up a Simulator VM with vagrant+VirtualBox and battle 
through it.

But cheetah can certainly make it unpleasant to say the least.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 1:39:11 PM UTC-8 WindnFog wrote:

> Thanks, guys.  That's what I figured.  While I'm no Python guru, I was in 
> the IT field for 39 years.  This isn't the first time I ran into things 
> like this.  I will do as you both suggest.  I can add a "feature" to the 
> stock file one at a time, and fix the errors as I encounter them.  The good 
> news is I have two parallel systems . . . one is my live site:
>
> https://www.ve1dx.net
>
> And the other is sending the simulator data to a subdirectory under it.  I 
> even have two Davis receivers,  each with a data logger and USB interface.  
> I do so because I have this obsession not to let my site go offline 
> (failing power outages.)  I always try to have a backup plan and duplicate 
> the hardware if possible.  I used to manage Unix servers for up to 2000 
> clients, and downtime was a no-no!
>
> So . . . it looks like I have my work cut out for me.  It's something to 
> do during this long, cold, dark winter.  One bite (byte?) at a time is the 
> way to go when facing an elephant.
>
> - Paul VE1DX
>
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 5:16:36 PM UTC-4 gjr80 wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Short answer is there is no direct way of obtaining the offending line 
>> number in your template file. It would be helpful if we had access to the 
>> temporary .py file that Cheetah creates (for which the line number is 
>> provided) but unfortunately we don’t have access to that file. The best you 
>> can do is to infer from the error message. In the case above you are 
>> looking for a multiplication operation for which the left hand operand is 
>> (could be) None and the right hand operand is a float. Usually not too hard 
>> to spot possible problem locations (unless you have lots and lots of 
>> multiplication operators). Also, NoneType issues typically come from WeeWX 
>> fields/obs that are unexpectedly None, so something like 
>> $current.outTemp.raw * 1.2 would be a prime candidate (outTemp could be 
>> None for some reason) but 3.23 * 1.2 (no chance of None) is not nor would 
>> $current.outHumidity.raw * 2 (does not use a float).
>>
>> If you are unfortunate enough to get an error message that is not very 
>> descriptive, or you have just too many possible error sites in your 
>> template, your only real option is to start breaking down your template 
>> into smaller chunks to find the location. I favour splitting the template 
>> in half, find the offending half template and then breaking that into 
>> halves and repeating the process, tedious but about the best you can do.
>>
>> This is a good incentive to make sure your code can tolerate 
>> variable/fields being None.
>>
>> Gary
>> On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 06:54:22 UTC+10 WindnFog wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys. I'm a little late converting from python 2.7 to python 3.7, but 
>>> true to my word last autumn, I'm now up to my elbows into it. It's going 
>>> well, and I'm using Matthews sftp extension to move it to my VPS web server 
>>> in Toronto, etc. This project will keep me busy for a while.
>>>
>>> My question is sort of simple. I have my index.html.tmpl heavily 
>>> customized, and I want to keep the features I've added over the past 4-5 
>>> years. Some of them are causing it to choke because what I'm doing has to 
>>> be coded differently in Python 3.7. I'll figure all that out. The question 
>>> I have is: How do I find the line causing the error in index.html.tmpl? 
>>> Here's an example:
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] INFO 
>>> weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 15 images for report SeasonsReport in 0.54 
>>> seconds*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] INFO 
>>> weewx.reportengine: Copied 0 files to /var/www/html/weewx*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generate failed with exception '<class 
>>> 'TypeError'>'*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** Ignoring template 
>>> /etc/weewx/skins/Standard/index.html.tmpl*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** Reason: unsupported operand type(s) for *: 
>>> 'NoneType' and 'float'*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** Traceback (most recent call last):*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** File 
>>> "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/cheetahgenerator.py", line 323, in generate*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** unicode_string = compiled_template.respond()*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** File 
>>> "_etc_weewx_skins_Standard_index_html_tmpl.py", line 1135, in respond*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] ERROR 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: **** TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for *: 
>>> 'NoneType' and 'float'*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:18 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] INFO 
>>> weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 13 files for report StandardReport in 
>>> 0.67 seconds*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:19 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] INFO 
>>> weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 12 images for report StandardReport in 0.43 
>>> seconds*
>>>
>>> *Dec 29 16:15:19 carrot python3[9457]: weewx[9457] INFO 
>>> weewx.reportengine: Copied 0 files to /var/www/html/weewx*
>>>
>>> This specific error doesn't matter because I can fix it if I can find 
>>> the offending like. Because index.html.tmpl goes through cheetah, I don't 
>>> think line 323 is the one causing the problem. I guessed correctly at a 
>>> few, but I know I'm going to get quite a few more. I need a way to narrow 
>>> it down. My version of index.html.tmpl is 867 lines, compared to the stock 
>>> one of 527 lines.
>>>
>>> - Paul VE1DX
>>>
>>

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