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On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 10:48 AM Auchtermuchty Weather <[email protected]>
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> Fantastic, got it working on the test system.  Now I'm using it all is
> clear - that the base station becomes a device in it's own right on the
> network, with it's own IP number.
>
> Now I turned off the previous weather station yesterday, and have only
> just got the new one working so I have some ugly straight lines on the
> output.
>
> What might be the best way of filling those in, or isn't it worth doing?
> There is a weather station just down the road that might be happy to pass
> their data for the relevant  few hours.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 18:37:44 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather wrote:
>
>> Brilliant, thanks, I finally thing I might know what I am doing1
>>
>> And on reading your description I agree that #2 is a better option.  I've
>> ordered a WH2650 clone.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:51:00 UTC galfert wrote:
>>
>>> There are two ways to move data from the GW1000 to WeeWX.
>>>
>>> - HTTP push: This method is where you go into the GW1000 configuration
>>> and you set up it up to give it the IP address of the WeeWX system. This is
>>> done under the "Customized" server upload feature of the GW1000. This
>>> method requires WeeWX to be configured with the Interceptor driver. All of
>>> the networked display consoles can also do this method. You don't need a
>>> GW1000 for this. But I feel it is better to opt for the other method which
>>> is unique to the GW1000 (and WH2650).
>>>
>>> - API pull: This method doesn't require any configuration on the part of
>>> the GW1000. Rather what you do is give your software the IP address of the
>>> GW1000 and then it just asks the GW1000 for live data. This method allows
>>> for you to have even other software running on the same system as WeeWX or
>>> on a different system that is simultaneously asking the GW1000 for live
>>> data. You can even benefit from having two WeeWX systems both getting live
>>> data. Then you can have a production system and a test system. Then you try
>>> WeeWx customizations on test system and if you mess something up no big
>>> deal because your production system is untouched. Then when you figure it
>>> out you can then implement those finalizations to the production system.
>>> Only the GW100 and its sibling WH2650 have this API capability. You'll need
>>> the GW1000 API driver extension for WeeWX.
>>> https://github.com/gjr80/weewx-gw1000
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn't quite there, I'm suspecting the GW1000 is set up with a
>>>> customized feed to the Pi.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:14:32 UTC galfert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, seems like you understand it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some added tidbits to understand though....
>>>>> The GW1000 has a USB plug but that is only used for power. You can
>>>>> certainly power it by the Pi, but you don't have to. You can plug the
>>>>> GW1000 to any USB power source. Do though consider that some power sources
>>>>> are less than adequate because some have been known to cause electronic
>>>>> interference with the sensor RF reception. I've tested the GW1000 with my
>>>>> Pi and it has no problems. But that could also be a function of the power
>>>>> supply I'm using with the Pi (I don't know). So just be aware that finding
>>>>> the adequate power source for the GW1000 is sometimes a concern. I don' t
>>>>> really want you to worry about that too much, because the majority of 
>>>>> users
>>>>> do not have this problem. It is just good to be aware of it. Therefore
>>>>> realize that the GW1000 only sends data via the network to whatever
>>>>> application or device talks to it....that can be WeeWX with the GW1000 API
>>>>> driver or the mobile app WS View which you'll need to initially configure
>>>>> the GW1000 or any other software you may decide to run (Cumulus MX,
>>>>> Meteobridge, Weather-Display...etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>> To recap...no data over USB on GW1000...The USB is only used for
>>>>> power. Use a good clean USB power source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you don't really want a display console then you should consider
>>>>> looking into the following Ecowitt complete kit models.
>>>>> GW1001 - all-in-one sensor array
>>>>> GW1002 - separate sensor components with spinning anemometer
>>>>> GW1003 - separate sensor components with ultrasonic anemometer
>>>>>
>>>>> All three of those complete kits come with the same GW1000. The
>>>>> complete station is referred to by those model names...but the GW1000 part
>>>>> is still just a regular GW1000. The GW1000 is also available separately if
>>>>> you wanted to add it to an existing station that came with a display
>>>>> console.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your question about the GW1000 being exclusive to Fine Offset is an
>>>>> odd question. The GW1000 is a Fine Offset part and it only works with 
>>>>> other
>>>>> compatible Fine Offset sensors. You will not be able to use a GW1000 with
>>>>> any other manufacture's sensors. That said realize that Fine Offset is the
>>>>> manufacture and there are reseller brands that slap their brand name on
>>>>> Fine Offset hardware. There are some resellers like Froggit, Ambient,
>>>>> Conrad, Misol, Watson, etc....that likely sell not just FIne Offset clones
>>>>> but they sell stations manufactured by other companies. These weather
>>>>> stations by other manufactures cannot share parts. Therefore when buying a
>>>>> weather station from say Watson or any other reseller it is important to
>>>>> know if the model you are looking at is a Fine Offset clone or some 
>>>>> station
>>>>> from a different manufacture. If you become familiar with the Fine Offset
>>>>> catalog you will be able to recognize sensors and display consoles just by
>>>>> looking at them. If it is a Fine Offset clone then it will look like a 
>>>>> Fine
>>>>> Offset clone. There is no way to confuse a CCL clone or UCTECH clone for a
>>>>> Fine Offset. The Ecowitt brand is special and they are not like the other
>>>>> resellers. This is because Ecowitt only sells FIne Offset as they are 
>>>>> owned
>>>>> and operated by Fine Offset....they are essentially the same company and
>>>>> they share employees. The way to consider it is that Ecowitt is the retail
>>>>> subsidiary of Fine Offset. You can't buy directly from Fine Offset (unless
>>>>> you are a reseller). So you can familiarize yourself with the Fine Offset
>>>>> catalog and the Ecowitt catalog (same thing but different websites), so
>>>>> that you can become familiar with what all these models look like and what
>>>>> they offer. Then you can more easily window shop and look at Watson,
>>>>> Conrad, Misol, Froggit and not be confused with what is and what isn't a
>>>>> Fine Offset clone.
>>>>> www.foshk.com
>>>>> www.ecowitt.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 10:32:57 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry about the name!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been for a walk and a think, and worked out what you are telling me.
>>>>>> The consoles no longer have USB, and the station in the garden can 
>>>>>> connect
>>>>>> to a console and/or a GW1000. I can plug a G1000 into my Pi and use a
>>>>>> driver in the way I'm used to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not interested in a console, the current one is completely hidden.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it's off to shop.  The GW1000 - presumably exclusive to FineOffset
>>>>>> clones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 13:38:08 UTC galfert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is Bob and then there me George. I'm the one that brought up
>>>>>>> the GW1000.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The newest Fine Offset clones no longer have USB connections. They
>>>>>>> have all been upgraded to network connectivity. Just like printers have 
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> gone from USB to network connectivity. The Fine Offset display consoles
>>>>>>> though do not have the same API protocol that the GW1000 / WH2650 have. 
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> display consoles can only send HTTP (push data) to one Customized device
>>>>>>> destination with a different protocol. The GW1000 / WH2650 has a proper 
>>>>>>> API
>>>>>>> (pull data) protocol which allows many devices to query for live data. 
>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>> you can have a display or not, that is up to you, but it won't be used 
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> you have a GW1000 /WH2650. The GW1000 / WH2650 get sensor data directly
>>>>>>> from the sensors, so they don't need the display.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:18:41 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty Weather
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Bob, very useful.  But I'm getting lost when you mention
>>>>>>>> needing a GW1000 as well as a weather station with console?  Have I
>>>>>>>> misunderstood?  As you can tell since my current station is a WH1080 
>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> not kept my eye on new stations at all.  I started running with WeeWx 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Oct 2012 which is a long time ago!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think my problem is I have no idea how the new stuff hangs
>>>>>>>> together, it certainly seems that plugging the console into the USB 
>>>>>>>> port on
>>>>>>>> a Pi isn't what happens these days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 18:39:03 UTC galfert wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh and I forgot to mention that you can get the GW1000 from
>>>>>>>>> Ecowitt if the FO Clone brand of the station and display do not offer 
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> It will work as long as the frequency is the same. Your choices of
>>>>>>>>> frequency are 433, 868, and 915 MHz.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example if you buy the Watson and they don't offer the GW1000
>>>>>>>>> (or the WH2650) then you can just get this added part from Ecowitt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:55 PM UTC-5 galfert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Newer Fine Offset clones from the various resellers have all been
>>>>>>>>>> tested. I recommend that you reference this product matrix to learn 
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> works with what.
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My recommendation between the Fine Offset clones and the CCL and
>>>>>>>>>> UCTECH clones is to stick to the Fine Offset clones. I think they 
>>>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>>>> better displays and better sensors and more options and better
>>>>>>>>>> compatibility with WeeWX with new drivers that pick up all these 
>>>>>>>>>> optional
>>>>>>>>>> sensors. The WeeWX driver to use is the GW1000 API driver. Which 
>>>>>>>>>> means that
>>>>>>>>>> no matter which display console you get, or maybe you don't get a 
>>>>>>>>>> display
>>>>>>>>>> at all, then all that matters is that you also include the GW1000 
>>>>>>>>>> are part
>>>>>>>>>> of the hardware set of parts. It doesn't matter if you get the Watson
>>>>>>>>>> WS8686 or the Froggit HP1000SE PRO or whatever other Fine Offset
>>>>>>>>>> clone...the only thing that matters is that you also include the 
>>>>>>>>>> GW1000 (or
>>>>>>>>>> its sibling WH2650 which also support the same GW1000 API protocol).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whatever you decide, the old WH1080 has been surpassed by 4
>>>>>>>>>> generations of hardware with many improvements. If you are still 
>>>>>>>>>> sporting a
>>>>>>>>>> WH1080 it is well due to upgrade it for a much better experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:39:33 AM UTC-5 Auchtermuchty
>>>>>>>>>> Weather wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At some point these newer clones with the newer sensors are
>>>>>>>>>>> going to have to be tried.  A lot of Googling using the makes 
>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned in
>>>>>>>>>>> the documentation failed to reveal any clones of the older stations 
>>>>>>>>>>> - they
>>>>>>>>>>> were all 'unavailable'.  Whether I am the person to do that is a 
>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>> question!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:18:26 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I can't offer any advice on that system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For a bit more money you can get a unit which is known to work
>>>>>>>>>>>> with Weewx, offers a better display and is compatible with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> latest
>>>>>>>>>>>> sensors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 10:04:19 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm....  I wonder if this will work?  Looks like a FineOffset
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WS2085 clone, same enough as a WS2083?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aercus Instruments WS2085 Wireless Weather Station with USB
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Upload + Free Beginner's Guide (eBook): Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aercus-Instruments-Wireless-Weather-Beginners/dp/B08148T5ZM/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=aercus&qid=1615197377&sr=8-1>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 09:46:07 UTC [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecowitt is the trading arm of Fine Offset and the Watson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W8686 appears to be a rebadged/clone of their HP2551.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used Weewx Interceptor in Ecowitt mode to receive the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information from the unit:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-interceptor which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 08:31:38 UTC Auchtermuchty Weather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which driver would this use?  And sorry I have no idea what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HP2551 and Ecowitt are about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 13:50:43 UTC [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look at this setup available in the UK:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nevadaradio.co.uk/product/watson-w-8686/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Works well, and supports extra sensors and updates (HP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2551) available from Ecowitt/ws View app.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 7 March 2021 at 11:30:38 UTC Auchtermuchty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weather wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of Bresser &  Youshiko  stations on the Internet, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no idea if any work with WeeWx - in other words if any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of them are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FineOffset clones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 15:06:30 UTC Steve Woodford
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m the wrong person to ask about off-the-shelf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations; I built my own:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mctavish.co.uk/weather/about/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 14:33, Auchtermuchty Weather <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks that what I needed to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what weather station would you suggest?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 6 March 2021 at 13:55:30 UTC Steve Woodford
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be aware that WH-1080 and its ilk have had several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompatible on-air protocol changes over the years. You’d 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be gambling with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your £75.69...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Mar 2021, at 12:18, Auchtermuchty Weather <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it might be time to replace my weather station
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a number of sensors are not working as they should, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a FineOffset as I'm currently using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old Maplins as a WH1080, one that uses the same sensors 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do me another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would this do the trick?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MISOL 1 set of Spare part (outdoor unit) for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Wireless Weather Station: Amazon.co.uk: Garden 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & Outdoors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.co.uk/MISOL-outdoor-Professional-Wireless-Weather/dp/B00EJFCM1M/ref=sr_1_32?crid=3QF58J4XI4Y8F&dchild=1&keywords=weather+stations+with+outdoor+sensor+wireless&qid=1615033043&refinements=p_36%3A7000-8000&rnid=388997011&sprefix=weather+%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-32>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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