Gotcha, I didn't realize that.

I've been deleting the rows where outTemp is null and then rebuilding the 
dailies and that's fixed the strange records, but I'm assuming that if I 
just rebuild the dailies that will do the trick without modifying the 
database?  Is record_generation = hardware playing a role as well?  Sounds 
like there's some drawbacks to setting this to software, but perhaps it's 
moot if I'm rebuilding the dailies anyway?

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 1:12:18 PM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:

> It just takes a single value in a LOOP packet for it to show up in "max" 
> in the daily summaries. 
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 9:53 AM Jared <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ah, there it is, in archive_day_rainRate.  I had to change from hex to 
>> int, and included maxtime so you can see the corresponding archive records.
>>
>> sqlite> select dateTime, datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime'), 
>> rain, rainRate from archive where rainRate==0xffff;
>> sqlite> select dateTime, datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime'), 
>> min, max from archive_day_rainRate where max==0xffff;
>> sqlite> select dateTime, datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime'), 
>> min, max, maxtime, datetime(maxtime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime') from 
>> archive_day_rainRate where max > 10;
>> dateTime    datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime')  min         max 
>>         maxtime     datetime(maxtime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime')
>> ----------  --------------------------------------------  ---------- 
>>  ----------  ----------  -------------------------------------------
>> 1572494400  2019-10-31 00:00:00                           0.0         
>> 24.0        1572573900  2019-10-31 22:05:00
>> 1581051600  2020-02-07 00:00:00                           0.0         
>> 11.76       1581081900  2020-02-07 08:25:00
>> 1688356800  2023-07-03 00:00:00                           0.0         
>> 655.35      1688357458  2023-07-03 00:10:58
>>
>>
>> Still not finding any smoking gun in archive though.
>>
>> sqlite> select dateTime, datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime'), 
>> rain, rainRate from archive where rainRate > 10;
>> dateTime    datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime')  rain       
>>  rainRate
>> ----------  --------------------------------------------  ---------- 
>>  ----------
>> 1572573900  2019-10-31 22:05:00                           0.37        24.0
>> 1581081900  2020-02-07 08:25:00                           0.19       
>>  11.76
>>
>>
>> The records webpage says the 655.35 record occurred at 00:10 local time 
>> on 7/3/23, but there's nothing interesting there in archive.
>>
>> sqlite> select dateTime,datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 
>> 'localtime'),barometer,outTemp,outHumidity,rain,rainRate from archive where 
>> dateTime > 1688356000 and dateTime < 1688361500;
>> dateTime    datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime')  barometer   
>> outTemp     outHumidity  rain        rainRate
>> ----------  --------------------------------------------  ---------- 
>>  ----------  -----------  ----------  ----------
>> 1688356200  2023-07-02 23:50:00                           29.879     
>>  72.8        96.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688356500  2023-07-02 23:55:00                           29.875     
>>  72.8        96.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688356800  2023-07-03 00:00:00                           29.874     
>>  72.8        96.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688357100  2023-07-03 00:05:00                           29.875     
>>  72.8        96.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688357400  2023-07-03 00:10:00                           29.876     
>>  72.8        96.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688357700  2023-07-03 00:15:00                           29.879     
>>  72.8        96.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688358000  2023-07-03 00:20:00                           29.879         
>>                       0.0         0.0
>> 1688358300  2023-07-03 00:25:00                           29.875         
>>                       0.0         0.0
>> 1688358600  2023-07-03 00:30:00                           29.873         
>>                       0.0         0.0
>> 1688358900  2023-07-03 00:35:00                           29.875         
>>                       0.0         0.0
>> 1688359200  2023-07-03 00:40:00                           29.872         
>>                       0.0         0.0
>> 1688359500  2023-07-03 00:45:00                           29.868     
>>  72.6                     0.0         0.0
>> 1688359800  2023-07-03 00:50:00                           29.867     
>>  72.7        97.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688360100  2023-07-03 00:55:00                           29.866     
>>  72.8        97.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688360400  2023-07-03 01:00:00                           29.865     
>>  72.8        97.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688360700  2023-07-03 01:05:00                           29.866     
>>  72.8        97.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688361000  2023-07-03 01:10:00                           29.867     
>>  72.8        97.0         0.0         0.0
>> 1688361300  2023-07-03 01:15:00                           29.869     
>>  72.8        97.0         0.0         0.0
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 9:48:24 AM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not familiar with records.inc. I assume the variable $archiveData is 
>>> a list of time spans? If so, $archive.rainRate.max would be coming from the 
>>> daily summaries.
>>>
>>> Let's try this:
>>>
>>> sqlite3 weewx.sdb
>>> sqlite> select dateTime, datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime'), 
>>> rain, rainRate from archive where rainRate==0xffff;
>>> sqlite> select dateTime, datetime(dateTime, 'unixepoch', 'localtime'), 
>>> min, max from archive_day_rainRate where max==0xffff;
>>>
>>> For the records webpage to show a value of 0xffff, it must be in the 
>>> database somewhere.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 4:48 AM Jared <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm seeing it in the records webpage.  Here is that part of my 
>>>> records.inc file:
>>>>
>>>> <tr>
>>>>   <td class="recordsLabel">$obs.label.rainRate</td>
>>>>   <td class="recordsHiLoLabel">High</td>
>>>>   #for $archive in $archiveData
>>>>     <td 
>>>> class="recordsData">$archive.rainRate.max.format(add_label=False)</td>
>>>>   #end for
>>>> </tr>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 6:23:53 PM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good point, but then you also said that rainRate had values of FFFF. 
>>>>> Where are you seeing that?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 3:01 PM Jared <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!  The confusing thing for me is that the database is showing 
>>>>>> 0.0 for the rainRate in those bad intervals.  Wouldn't I expect to see 
>>>>>> 655.35 in those archive intervals instead of 0.0?
>>>>>> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 3:58:05 PM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think these are all related.  If your VP2 receives a "dash value", 
>>>>>>> that means the reading from the sensor is bad. The WeeWX Vantage driver 
>>>>>>> detects this, and emits a value of None, which becomes a null value in 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> database. For whatever reasons, the outside temperature and humidity 
>>>>>>> sensors are emitting dash values, so you're seeing corresponding null 
>>>>>>> values in their database fields.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, dash values are NOT detected for rain rate, so you'll see 
>>>>>>> 0xFFFF as the value. The documentation does not mention that a dash 
>>>>>>> value 
>>>>>>> is possible for rain rate, but obviously it is. That's a change that 
>>>>>>> needs 
>>>>>>> to be made to the driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for why these sensors are emitting null (aka, "dash") values, I 
>>>>>>> don't know. Something going on with your hardware. Because it is 
>>>>>>> happening 
>>>>>>> to 3 different sensors at the same time, it makes me think it must be 
>>>>>>> something they all have in common. Perhaps the battery, perhaps the 
>>>>>>> communications module, perhaps something else. It's worth asking Davis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixed in commit dea4b30 
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/commit/dea4b30317fac63428ae47c1b08fe31433d0d232>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -tk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 4:59 AM Jared <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running a Vantage Pro 2, and there have been four occurrences 
>>>>>>>> so far this year where it has failed to log an outTemp and outHumidity 
>>>>>>>> value in the database for a period of several archive intervals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I run a query like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> select 
>>>>>>>> dateTime,barometer,inTemp,outTemp,inHumidity,outHumidity,windSpeed,windDir,windGust,windGustDir,rain,rainRate,rxCheckPercent,txBatteryStatus,consBatteryVoltage
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> from archive where outTemp IS NULL;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The station is logging everything normally except outTemp and 
>>>>>>>> outHumidity.  This is going to format terribly but it may help:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dateTime    barometer   inTemp      outTemp     inHumidity 
>>>>>>>>  outHumidity  windSpeed   windDir     windGust    windGustDir  rain    
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>  rainRate    rxCheckPercent  txBatteryStatus  consBatteryVoltage
>>>>>>>> ----------  ----------  ----------  ----------  ---------- 
>>>>>>>>  -----------  ----------  ----------  ----------  -----------  
>>>>>>>> ---------- 
>>>>>>>>  ----------  --------------  ---------------  ------------------
>>>>>>>> 1688358000  29.879      76.9                    42.0               
>>>>>>>>       0.0                     0.0                      0.0         0.0 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>     99.4375         0.0              4.79
>>>>>>>> 1688358300  29.875      76.7                    42.0               
>>>>>>>>       0.0                     0.0                      0.0         0.0 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>     99.4375         0.0              4.79
>>>>>>>> 1688358600  29.873      76.7                    42.0               
>>>>>>>>       0.0                     0.0                      0.0         0.0 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>     99.4375         0.0              4.79
>>>>>>>> 1688358900  29.875      76.6                    42.0               
>>>>>>>>       0.0                     0.0                      0.0         0.0 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>     100.0           0.0              4.79
>>>>>>>> 1688359200  29.872      76.5                    42.0               
>>>>>>>>       0.0                     0.0                      0.0         0.0 
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>     99.4375         0.0              4.79
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, I wonder if there is a problem with my station's sensor.  
>>>>>>>> I'll have to investigate that.  Three occurrences of this happened 
>>>>>>>> over the 
>>>>>>>> winter, and just last night was the first time it's happened in 
>>>>>>>> months.  
>>>>>>>> Any tips here are appreciated, but I know that's well outside the 
>>>>>>>> scope of 
>>>>>>>> the forum :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But for whatever reason, this also messes up the rainRate records.  
>>>>>>>> As you can see there's no strange rain data in the archive, so I'm not 
>>>>>>>> sure 
>>>>>>>> how it's causing the rainRate records to have that value (FFFF in 
>>>>>>>> hex).  
>>>>>>>> All the other values and tables aside from archive are generated by 
>>>>>>>> Weewx, 
>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help is appreciated.  I've just been deleting these bad records 
>>>>>>>> from archive and rebuilding the daily tables, but let me know if 
>>>>>>>> there's 
>>>>>>>> something I else I should be doing.
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