Graham,

I see that your ultrasound sensor is the https://www.dragino.com/products/distance-level-sensor/item/161-ldds75.html

available from https://www.iot-store.com.au/collections/sensors/products/ldds75-lorawan-waterproof-distance-detection-sensor 7500mm range for $139

or the sensor alone from https://www.digikey.com.au/en/products/detail/dfrobot/SEN0313/11202720 for $51

I'll order one, thanks.

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Regarding the failure to obtain meaningful results from the microwave sensor, I'm wondering if that could be related to the rather wide acceptance angle of the device?

I'm guessing that yours may have been the $229 24GHz device at https://www.dragino.com/products/distance-level-sensor/item/197-lmds200.html which cites 'Horizontal Angel: 78° Vertical Angel: 23°' (sic!)

The $229 60GHz device at https://www.iot-store.com.au/products/mds120-lb-lorawan-distance-sensor quotes 'Measurement Angle: 25 degrees horizontal and 23 degrees vertical' may be more suitable for the applications. I'm flirting with ordering one of these...

The images of these show no antenna horn, so I'll look into making up a horn to contain the uWaves into a narrower beam. The very short wavelength (~12.5mm) will doubtless make for a challenging build, also that the Tx & Rx antenna are separated.

24GHz Microwave Radar Sensor <https://core-electronics.com.au/24ghz-microwave-radar-sensor.html>

Perhaps you could do some beamwidth tests on yours? If it really is 78 degr wide, then perhaps that axis could be aligned up/downstream, to avoid bridge pylons and streambank?

We envisage attaching the devices to a public bridge, on many of these the 7.5M range limitation would not reach to the normal water level. Therefore I'm also looking at the microwave devices with their claimed 20M range.

Your site is an inspiration!

Thanks

PS: Regarding the immersion pressure sensor, I did buy one of these, but due to the requirement for a metal tube to contain it, and our intended placement on public bridges, we are looking instead at the remote sensors. You might consider https://core-electronics.com.au/gravity-throw-in-type-liquid-level-transmitter.html $86 and https://www.iot-store.com.au/products/serial-bridge-lorawan-converter $129.

Greg Hall
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On 11/11/23 12:52 pm, Graham Eddy wrote:
river level sensors:
  * my dragino lorawan ultrasonic sensor has been fine, though it has condensation problems (to be fair, it is mounted under a bridge a couple metres above normal river level)   * my dragino lorawan microwave radar has been a failure. i get neither accurate nor consistent measurements and can’t see any way to use the readings i get   * my old aquagauge differential pressure sensor - proprietary radio network - has worked precisely for years, but is not sold any more. after the failure of the microwave sensor experiment, i would like to get a lorawan diff pressure sensor but they are too expensive - alternative is another ultrasound sensor
*⊣GE⊢*

On 11 Nov 2023, at 12:04 pm, Greg Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

And yes, the advice that stream gauges tell a fuller story is well taken. We're also evaluating ultrasonic and microwave sensors for this.

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