as starting with a clean installation on my Rpi5, there was no indication 
for debugging. In parallel I monitored the activitation with s-tui, 
especially for cpu load/temperature and fan speed. So I started with 
simulator modus, then installed gw1000, all of it without any increase in 
cpu activity. Next day, I did the adoption of alltimeSeasons, as this needs 
to be installed completely manually. By this way, I had to correct two 
gw1000 specific entries, concerning the transmitter battery and the sun 
irradiation, both of them were empty. I transferred both entries from the 
old Rpi4 conf file to the new one, again without any change un cpu usage. 
Finally I installed windy upload. Still no problem. So, the only two 
things, I did not install, is forecast and cpu-temp. The latter, however, 
raised some cosmetic trouble as the data were collected in extraTemp1, 
which is now used by a meanwhile installed barn sensor for temp and 
humidity. I should try to delete the old data for cpu-temp, because it 
looks crasy, when temp was about 50 °C and now dropped to 10 °C.
As I monitor the two Raspis now in Home Assistant, I will not install this 
feature in weewx again. Concerning forecast, I am still thinking about.. 
Still, I doubt, that this is the cause for the high cpu usage at the Rpi4.

Before I decide this, I could use the Rpi4 installation now for testings. 
Maybe it is a good idea to remove one part by the next of all the 
additions, and look for effects on cpu load? Currently I have simply 
stopped the old Rpi4 weewx service, being glad, that the new one works fine 
now.

vince schrieb am Freitag, 15. November 2024 um 22:35:27 UTC+1:

> In the absence of debug=1 logs, best of luck.
>
> As always, run with a 'clean' db and just one skin (pick one, Seasons or 
> Standard) to stabilize your installation with a known reference point 
> before adding your tweaks and additions and real db.  That's the only way 
> we can try to replicate your setup if it comes to that.
>
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2024 at 12:49:52 PM UTC-8 Vetti52 wrote:
>
>> My brief update:
>> Today I have installed weewx on my new Rpi5 from the scratch. Then I 
>> copied the weewx.db from the old Rpi4. I also installed alltimeSeasons 
>> manually (which would be nice to be integrated into the Seasons skin more 
>> easily). Thus, although using historygenerator.py again, everything works 
>> fine, no detectable cpu load so far. I hesitate to install forecast, which 
>> uses it‘s own database. But I think, that was not the reason, because the 
>> 100% cpu happened without using forecast as well.
>> Thus, it might remain an unresolved black box issue.
>>
>> BTW, at the Rpi4 journalctl only historygenerator.py is listed every 5 
>> minutes. In the new Rpi5, there are now listed cheetahgenerator and 
>> imagegenerator as well. At least concerning the journalling there are 
>> differences between both setups. No idea, how this happened.
>>
>> Thanks anyway
>> Peter
>>
>> vince schrieb am Sonntag, 18. August 2024 um 03:33:02 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Brief update - I had the user make his db available to me and it's fine 
>>> on both mac and raspi platforms, so the issue seems to be something in his 
>>> os+weewx setup.....
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2024 at 9:22:18 AM UTC-7 vince wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t know. At this point all I can suggest is trying to determine if 
>>>> your db is the reason or not. 
>>>>
>>>> If you can set up your second pi, install a new os and weewx using the 
>>>> Simulator only and get that working (without any uploaders enabled). Then 
>>>> scp your db over and restart weewx and see if it breaks anything. The 
>>>> initial run will take a few minutes to build the NOAA files but the 
>>>> archive 
>>>> runs should be very fast afterward.
>>>>
>>>> That will at least tell us if your db is ok.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2024 at 1:57:19 AM UTC-7 Vetti52 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I did not mention earlier, but I checked the schema count long 
>>>>> time before, when changing to the new db schema. Yes, it is 114.
>>>>>
>>>>> But before I could check, I had do install sqlite3, which was not 
>>>>> installed in bookworm lite yet. weewx (or python) does not seem to need 
>>>>> this package by itself.
>>>>> Then, before doing the apt update/upgrade, I had to remove the old 
>>>>> style gpg key and install the new one
>>>>>
>>>>> wget -qO - https://weewx.com/keys.html | sudo gpg --dearmor --output 
>>>>> /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/weewx.gpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Same with the bookworm reposities gpg key accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I did, as mentioned in the other thread, check calc-missing only. 
>>>>> Dont know, if I should check all the others mentioned there, such as 
>>>>> appTemp.
>>>>>
>>>>> weectl database calc-missing
>>>>>
>>>>> and finally I checked for the amount of the 114 values, as you showed 
>>>>> above. However, I had to do it as 
>>>>> sudo echo ".schema" | sqlite3 /var/lib/weewx/weewx.sdb  | wc -l
>>>>> Maybe, there is a problem with my user rights settings?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tanks 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> vince schrieb am Freitag, 16. August 2024 um 20:41:53 UTC+2:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Check your weewx.sdb file first if it was originally on a system 
>>>>>> running weewx v3 or earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the other thread and multiple other ones have indicated, there 
>>>>>> 'is' a change in v5 that calculates elements present in a skin that are 
>>>>>> not 
>>>>>> in the db schema.  Typically this is appTemp but there are others.  This 
>>>>>> typically occurs for sites that started in weewx v3 or earlier.  New 
>>>>>> sites 
>>>>>> that started at v4 should not see this issue usually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check your schema to see how many elements are in your actual db 
>>>>>> schema.   The big wview-extended schema that is the default in v4 and 
>>>>>> later 
>>>>>> will return 114 for the following command.  The original wview 
>>>>>> compatible 
>>>>>> schema used in v3 and earlier will report a number around 50 or so (I 
>>>>>> forget the actual number).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # use the full path to your db below
>>>>>> # or cd into the archive directory before
>>>>>> # running the following command
>>>>>> echo ".schema" | sqlite3 weewx.sdb | wc -l
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 6:49:32 AM UTC-7 Vetti52 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have read the threads of Bartosz and those cited there but could 
>>>>>>> not find a solution for my problem there:
>>>>>>> After updating to weewx 5.01. without any flaws after a few weeks, 
>>>>>>> when it got hot ouside, I realized, that my RPi4 had stopped working, 
>>>>>>> because of getting too hot. After restart everything worked fine, until 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> temperature again rised over more than 60 °C. I checked with s-tui that 
>>>>>>> one 
>>>>>>> of the four cores remained ad 100%. Finally I found, that as soon as 
>>>>>>> weewx 
>>>>>>> generated the first record, the cpu usage was 100%. Now, I moved the 
>>>>>>> RPi4 
>>>>>>> into a cool and dark room and leave the RPi case open, so that the 
>>>>>>> temperature does not exceed 58 °C in average.
>>>>>>> The latest update (and system upgrade) was yesterday.
>>>>>>> My setup:
>>>>>>> Raspberry4 with Bookworm, connected per LAN cable
>>>>>>> Weewx 5.1 installed with Debian RPM
>>>>>>> Ecowitt GW1000, driver 0.6.3
>>>>>>> Skin alltimeSeasons with forecast extension
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I replaced alltimeSeasons with regular Seasons skin, enabled debug = 
>>>>>>> 1  and restarted weewx. Still the same result:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> journalctl -u weewx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:20:20 raspbee weewxd.py[4438]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.20 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:22:49 raspbee systemd[1]: Stopping weewx.service - WeeWX...
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:22:50 raspbee systemd[1]: weewx.service: Deactivated 
>>>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:22:50 raspbee systemd[1]: Stopped weewx.service - WeeWX.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:22:50 raspbee systemd[1]: weewx.service: Consumed 1d 21h 
>>>>>>> 4min 31.966s CPU time.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:23:09 raspbee systemd[1]: Started weewx.service - WeeWX.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:23:16 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: windy: version is 0.6
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:23:16 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: windy: Data will be 
>>>>>>> uploaded to https://stations.windy.com/pws/update
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:25:16 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.21 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:30:18 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.20 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:35:19 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.20 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:40:21 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.21 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:45:22 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.20 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:50:24 raspbee weewxd.py[17471]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.19 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:52:31 raspbee systemd[1]: Stopping weewx.service - WeeWX...
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:52:31 raspbee systemd[1]: weewx.service: Deactivated 
>>>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:52:31 raspbee systemd[1]: Stopped weewx.service - WeeWX.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:52:31 raspbee systemd[1]: weewx.service: Consumed 27min 
>>>>>>> 30.505s CPU time.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:52:54 raspbee systemd[1]: Started weewx.service - WeeWX.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:53:15 raspbee weewxd.py[18570]: windy: version is 0.6
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:53:15 raspbee weewxd.py[18570]: windy: Data will be 
>>>>>>> uploaded to https://stations.windy.com/pws/update
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:55:15 raspbee weewxd.py[18570]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.20 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:33 raspbee systemd[1]: Stopping weewx.service - WeeWX...
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:33 raspbee systemd[1]: weewx.service: Deactivated 
>>>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:33 raspbee systemd[1]: Stopped weewx.service - WeeWX.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:33 raspbee systemd[1]: weewx.service: Consumed 2min 
>>>>>>> 22.493s CPU time.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:33 raspbee systemd[1]: Started weewx.service - WeeWX.
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:40 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: windy: version is 0.6
>>>>>>> Aug 16 14:57:40 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: windy: Data will be 
>>>>>>> uploaded to https://stations.windy.com/pws/update
>>>>>>> Aug 16 15:00:20 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.20 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 15:05:22 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.21 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 15:10:24 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.18 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 15:15:25 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.19 seconds
>>>>>>> Aug 16 15:20:27 raspbee weewxd.py[18714]: historygenerator.py: 
>>>>>>> Generated 5 tables in 0.19 seconds
>>>>>>> (No success to formate the pasted lines above into Courier, sorry)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No idea, where else to look at now. My intention now is, to install 
>>>>>>> weewx on my other RPi5 from the scratch, and move the two databases 
>>>>>>> (weewx.db and forecast.db) over and reestablish alltimeSeasons and 
>>>>>>> forecast 
>>>>>>> afterwards. 
>>>>>>> So, is it possible to maintain weewx on different stations 
>>>>>>> simultaneously? Would my approach work like that? Or should I first 
>>>>>>> search 
>>>>>>> for the cause for 100% CPU load?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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