Thanks for the pi tip.
I attached  the log file and the plist file and I cannot find anything beside what I sent earlier. It just can't find the backend. And this happens also exactly the same way, when I don't change to bash with just running weewxd.



On 12/15/24 11:04, vince wrote:
If you go raspi, get a pi4 for the higher performance and memory. You’ll thank yourself. The 4gb pi4 to me is the sweetspot for weewx. No need to go pi5.

Your followups re: which mac you use or which shell make  no sense to me if your plist file is correct but you are providing no logs we can go on, so best of luck I guess. Be sure to set up mac logging per https://weewx.com/docs/5.1/usersguide/monitoring/ if you haven’t done so, if you want to keep battling that.

On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 10:13:05 AM UTC-8 andi klein wrote:

    I found more issue. If I run weewxd in zsh, it crashes, hwoever if
    I run in bash weewxd works fine. So could it be that I need to
    have some way to change the shell to bash in the plist load file,
    for the daemon to work? and how would I do this?

    On Sunday, December 15, 2024 at 9:07:46 AM UTC-8 andi klein wrote:

        Thanks I tried the suggestion using the different python3. It
        did not work. I am able to run the whole thing in the virtual
        environment, which uses the python3 installed there. So I
        guess that might not be the problem. Having now spent three
        days on this, I will go out and buy a raspi3 and forget about
        the mac. I am convinced it has to do with the imac I am trying
        to run this and now the weewx installation. I Installed
        everything on my MacBook pro (M1), following the manual and it
        run like a charm within half an hour.
        andi



        On 12/14/24 16:57, vince wrote:
        See if https://github.com/weewx/weewx/issues/971 helps any....

        On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 4:50:18 PM UTC-8 Tom Keffer
        wrote:

            I'm guessing that the path used by the dynamic loader is
            different when run from a command line, vs run as a daemon.

            Did you try the suggestions in the post?

            On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 4:46 PM andi klein
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                Thanks, I don't think thi i the problem. I can
                connect to the acurite with weewxd but not through
                loading the deamon. I can also see the acurite with
                system_profiler SPUSBDataType



                On 12/14/24 15:52, Tom Keffer wrote:
                See if this
                
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70729330/python-on-m1-mbp-trying-to-connect-to-usb-devices-nobackenderror-no-backend-a>
                answers your question.

                On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 2:23 PM andi klein
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    I installed weewx 5.1 for a friend on an iMac
                    M1. While running just weewxd everything works
                    great, I get connected andc all the info is
                    correct in the terminal: (One thing I noted is
                    that I need to run under bash and not his
                    default zsh). Thanks for any help, I spent two
                    days scratching my head and googling.

                    LOOP:   2024-12-14 14:16:53 PST (1734214613)
                    'altimeter': '29.553886849491384', 'appTemp':
                    'None', 'barometer': 'None', 'channel': '3',
                    'cloudbase': 'None', 'dateTime': '1734214613',
                    'dewpoint': 'None', 'ET': 'None', 'heatindex':
                    'None', 'humidex': 'None', 'inDewpoint': 'None',
                    'inTemp': '65.84000257760286', 'maxSolarRad':
                    '105.00260614815654', 'outTempBatteryStatus':
                    '0', 'pressure': '29.236533249218752', 'rain':
                    'None', 'rain_total': '129.94639999999998',
                    'rainRate': '0.0', 'rssi': '3',
                    'rxCheckPercent': '100.0', 'sensor_battery':
                    '0', 'sensor_id': '3433', 'usUnits': '1',
                    'windchill': 'None', 'windDir': '45.0',
                    'windrun': 'None', 'windSpeed': '2.678862142244647'

                    If I try to run it as a daemon with launchctl it
                    bombs on me with backend not found:

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Using Python: 3.9.6 (default, Nov 11 2024, 03:15:38)

                    [Clang 16.0.0 (clang-1600.0.26.6)]

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Located at: /Users/xxx/weewx-venv/bin/python3

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Platform: macOS-14.6.1-arm64-arm-64bit

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Locale: 'C/UTF-8/C/C/C/C'

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Entry path:
                    /Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewxd.py

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    WEEWX_ROOT: /Users/xxx/weewx-data

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Config file:/Users/xxx/weewx-data/weewx.conf

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    User module:/Users/xxx/weewx-data/bin/user

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Debug:0

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    User: root

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Group:wheel

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Groups: wheel daemon kmem sys tty operator
                    procview procmod everyone staff certusers localaccou

                    nts admin com.apple.sharepoint.group.1 _appstore
                    _lpadmin _lpoperator _developer _analyticsusers
                    com.apple.access_ftp
                    com.apple.access_screensharing c

                    om.apple.access_ssh com.apple.access_remote_ae

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Loading station type AcuRite
                    (weewx.drivers.acurite)

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.drivers.acurite: driver version is 0.4

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.drivers.acurite: R2 will be decoded using
                    sensor constants

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: StdConvert target unit is 0x1

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.wxservices: StdWXCalculate will use data
                    binding wx_binding

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Archive will use data binding
                    wx_binding

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Record generation will be
                    attempted in 'hardware'

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Using archive interval of 300
                    seconds (specified in weewx configuration)

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.restx: StationRegistry: Registration not
                    requested.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.restx: Wunderground: Posting not enabled.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.restx: PWSweather: Posting not enabled.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.restx: CWOP: Posting not enabled.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.restx: WOW: Posting not enabled.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.restx: AWEKAS: Posting not enabled.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: 'pyephem' not detected, extended
                    almanac data is not available

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO __main__:
                    Starting up weewx version 5.1.0

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Using binding 'wx_binding' to
                    database 'weewx.sdb'

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.manager: Starting backfill of daily summaries

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.manager: Empty database

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Starting main packet loop.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: INFO
                    weewx.engine: Main loop exiting. Shutting engine
                    down.

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__: Caught unrecoverable exception:

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__: ****No backend available

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__: ****Traceback (most recent call last):


                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__: ****File
                    
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewxd.py",
                    line

                    127, in main


                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__: ****engine.run()

                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__: ****raise NoBackendError('No backend
                    available')


                    2024-12-14 13:17:00 weewxd[2083]: CRITICAL
                    __main__:     **** usb.core.NoBackendError: No
                    backend available


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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!-- property list file for weewx daemon -->
<!-- put this file in /Library/LaunchDaemons -->
<!-- to start weewx: -->
<!--   sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.weewx.weewxd.plist -->
<!-- to stop: -->
<!--   sudo launchctl unload /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.weewx.weewxd.plist -->
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>Label</key>
    <string>com.weewx.weewxd</string>
    <key>Disabled</key>
    <false/>
    <key>RunAtLoad</key>
    <true/>
    <key>ProgramArguments</key>
    <array>
        <string>/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/bin/python3</string>
        <string>/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewxd.py</string>
        <string>/Users/xxx/weewx-data/weewx.conf</string>
    </array>
    <key>StandardErrorPath</key>
    <string>/var/log/weewx_err.log</string>
</dict>
</plist>
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Initializing weewxd version 
5.1.0
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Command line: 
/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewxd.py 
/Users/xxx/weewx-data/weewx.conf
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Using Python: 3.9.6 (default, 
Nov 11 2024, 03:15:38) 
[Clang 16.0.0 (clang-1600.0.26.6)]
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Located at:   
/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/bin/python3
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Platform:     
macOS-14.6.1-arm64-arm-64bit
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Locale:       'C/UTF-8/C/C/C/C'
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Entry path:   
/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewxd.py
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: WEEWX_ROOT:   
/Users/xxx/weewx-data
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Config file:  
/Users/xxx/weewx-data/weewx.conf
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: User module:  
/Users/xxx/weewx-data/bin/user
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Debug:        1
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: User:         root
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Group:        wheel
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Groups:       wheel daemon 
kmem sys tty operator procview procmod everyone staff certusers localaccounts 
admin com.apple.sharepoint.group.1 _appstore _lpadmin _lpoperator _developer 
_analyticsusers com.apple.access_ftp com.apple.access_screensharing 
com.apple.access_ssh com.apple.access_remote_ae
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG __main__: loop_on_init: False
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG __main__: Initializing engine
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Loading station type 
AcuRite (weewx.drivers.acurite)
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.drivers.acurite: driver version is 
0.4
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.drivers.acurite: R2 will be 
decoded using sensor constants
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdTimeSynch
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdTimeSynch
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdConvert
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: StdConvert target unit is 
0x1
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdConvert
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdCalibrate
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdCalibrate
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdQC
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdQC
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.wxservices.StdWXCalculate
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.wxservices: StdWXCalculate will 
use data binding wx_binding
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.manager: Daily summary version is 
4.0
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.wxservices.StdWXCalculate
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdWXXTypes
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdWXXTypes
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdPressureCooker
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdPressureCooker
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdRainRater
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdRainRater
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdDelta
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.wxxtypes.StdDelta
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdArchive
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Archive will use data 
binding wx_binding
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Record generation will be 
attempted in 'hardware'
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Using archive interval of 
300 seconds (specified in weewx configuration)
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Use LOOP data in hi/low 
calculations: 1
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdArchive
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.restx.StdStationRegistry
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.restx: StationRegistry: 
Registration not requested.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.restx.StdStationRegistry
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.restx.StdWunderground
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.restx: Wunderground: Posting not 
enabled.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.restx.StdWunderground
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.restx.StdPWSweather
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.restx: PWSweather: Posting not 
enabled.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.restx.StdPWSweather
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.restx.StdCWOP
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.restx: CWOP: Posting not enabled.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.restx.StdCWOP
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.restx.StdWOW
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.restx: WOW: Posting not enabled.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.restx.StdWOW
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.restx.StdAWEKAS
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.restx: AWEKAS: Posting not enabled.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.restx.StdAWEKAS
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdPrint
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdPrint
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Loading service 
weewx.engine.StdReport
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: 'pyephem' not detected, 
extended almanac data is not available
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Finished loading service 
weewx.engine.StdReport
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO __main__: Starting up weewx version 5.1.0
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: DEBUG weewx.engine: Station does not support 
reading the time
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Using binding 'wx_binding' 
to database 'weewx.sdb'
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.manager: Starting backfill of 
daily summaries
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.manager: Empty database
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Starting main packet loop.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: INFO weewx.engine: Main loop exiting. 
Shutting engine down.
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__: Caught unrecoverable 
exception:
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****  No backend 
available
2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****  Traceback (most 
recent call last):

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewxd.py", line 127, in main

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      engine.run()

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewx/engine.py", line 204, 
in run

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      for packet 
in self.console.genLoopPackets():

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewx/drivers/acurite.py", 
line 461, in genLoopPackets

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      with 
Station() as station:

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewx/drivers/acurite.py", 
line 582, in __enter__

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      self.open()

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewx/drivers/acurite.py", 
line 589, in open

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      dev = 
self._find_dev(self.vendor_id, self.product_id, self.device_id)

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/weewx/drivers/acurite.py", 
line 922, in _find_dev

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      for bus in 
usb.busses():

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/usb/legacy.py", line 355, in 
busses

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      
sorted(core.find(find_all=True), key=lambda d: d.bus),

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****    File 
"/Users/xxx/weewx-venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/usb/core.py", line 1309, in 
find

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****      raise 
NoBackendError('No backend available')

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****  
usb.core.NoBackendError: No backend available

2024-12-16 07:46:29 weewxd[8027]: CRITICAL __main__:     ****  Exiting.

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