Thanks. I can only think of a loosely attached or vibrating tipper bouncing 
on and off the post it tips onto, perhaps in gusty wind or whatever it’s 
attached to shaking.  I see a lot of 82.29 in/hr rates which seems to be 
some Davis max they can come up with.

0.13” in 5 minutes is 1.56 in/hr if it was steady tipping rate, not 82.29 
in/hr reported

0.09 in 5 minutes is 1.08 in/hr at steady tipping,  ot the 64.00 reported

Really odd. Would it be wise to define some StdQC item for this station ?

On Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 12:35:28 PM UTC-8 Tom Keffer wrote:

> The VP2 has hardware generation. So, unless the user changes something, 
> the database will record whatever comes off the console. As for how Davis 
> calculates rain rate, here's what they have to say in their "Derived 
> Variables 
> <https://support.davisinstruments.com/article/igpcv664kz-app-notes-derived-variables-in-davis-weather-products>"
>  
> document.
>
> RAINFALL RATE
>
> Parameters Used: Rain Total (actually, rain rate is a measured variable in 
> the sense that it is
>
> measured by the ISS and transmitted to the display console, whereas all 
> other calculated
>
> variables are determined by the console from data received from the ISS.)
>
> Formula:
>
> Under normal conditions, rain rate data is sent with a nominal interval of 
> 10 to 12 seconds.
>
> Every time a rain tip or click occurs, a new rain rate value is computed 
> (from the timer values)
>
> and the rate timers are reset to zero.
>
> Rain rate is calculated based on the time between successive tips of the 
> rain collector. The rain
>
> rate value is the highest rate since the last transmitted rain rate data 
> packet. (Under most
>
> conditions, however, a rain tip will not occur every 10 to 12 seconds.)
>
> If there have been no rain tips since the last rain rate data 
> transmission, then the rain rate based
>
> on the time since that last tip is indicated. This results in slowly 
> decaying rate values as a rain
>
> storm ends, instead of showing a rain rate which abruptly drops to zero. 
> This results in a more
>
> realistic representation of the actual rain event.
>
> If this time exceeds roughly 15 minutes, than the rain rate value is reset 
> to zero. This period of
>
> time was chosen because 15 minutes is defined by the U.S. National Weather 
> Service as
>
> intervening time upon which one rain "event" is considered separate from 
> another rain "event".
>
> This is also the shortest period of time that the Umbrella will be seen on 
> the display console
>
> after the onset of rain.
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 12:21 PM vince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Tom - how could weewx generate bizarre rainRate values in an archive 
>> record when the amount of rain in an interval period looks reasonable ?   
>>  The station is a VP2.
>>
>> Here's one example related to that other long thread 'Correct Old and New 
>> Rain Records'.
>>
>> sqlite3 query was:
>>
>> echo "SELECT interval,datetime(dateTime,'unixepoch','localtime'), 
>> dateTime, rain, rainRate FROM archive where dateTime<1570838400 and 
>> dateTime>=1570752000 ORDER BY rainRate DESC LIMIT 10;" | sqlite3 
>> ~/weewx-data/archive/weewx.sdb
>>
>> Just the interesting archive records....
>>
>> 5|2019-10-11 21:45:00|1570830300|0.0|0.0
>> 5|2019-10-11 21:50:00|1570830600|0.0|0.0
>> 5|2019-10-11 21:55:00|1570830900|0.13|82.29   <==
>> 5|2019-10-11 22:00:00|1570831200|0.09|64.0    <==
>> 5|2019-10-11 22:05:00|1570831500|0.0|0.07
>> 5|2019-10-11 22:10:00|1570831800|0.0|0.04
>> 5|2019-10-11 22:15:00|1570832100|0.0|0.0
>> 5|2019-10-11 22:20:00|1570832400|0.0|0.0
>>
>> Total for that day was 0.23" so basically all was in that 10 minute period
>>
>> Other than a possibly broken/chattering tipper sensor, can you think of 
>> anything ?
>>
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