Found a couple of articles that may be of interest....

weewx using accumulators without deltas - Search 
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weewx accumulator time - Search 
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I think the accumulator time is going to be more useful...  I was hoping 
that the accumulators without deltas would be nice but I think it only 
works with extractor last or firstlast...   I have not been able to get it 
to run with min max or sum (but that maybe me).


On Wednesday, August 5, 2026 at 12:15:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Sifford wrote:

> Here is the code that I am working on...
>
> [StdCalibrate]
>
>     [[Corrections]]
>         # For each type, an arbitrary calibration expression can be given.
>         # It should be in the units defined in the StdConvert section.
>         # Example:
>         foo = foo + 0.2
>
>         # lightning_strike_count is a internal variable that is used by 
> weewx in reports.  It shows the numer of lightning strikes that occured 
> within a loop/archive interval
>         # obtain information about lightning strikes for reporting to 
> hubitat
>         # lightning_strike_count_start is the number of strikes that the 
> day started with (strike_count)
>         # lightning_strike_count_last is the present number of strikes 
> today
>         # lightning_count is the total count of lightning strikes that 
> have occurred today
>         #
>         # lightning_strike_last_distance = distance of the last lightning 
> strike
>         # lightning_strike_min_distance = distance of the closest 
> lightning strike
>         #
>         # still have work to do to obtain the time of the two lightning 
> strikes
>         # still have testing to do on what is presently done
>         #
>         lightning_strike_count_start = strike_count
>         lightning_strike_count_last = strike_count
>         lightning_count = lightning_count + lightning_strike_count if 
> lightning_strike_count > 0 else None
>         lightning_distance = strike_distance if lightning_strike_count > 0 
> else None
>         lightning_strike_last_distance = strike_distance if 
> lightning_strike_count > 0 else None
>         lighting_strike_min_distance = strike_distance if 
> lightning_strike_count > 0 else None
>
> and
>
>     [[Delta]]
>
>         [[[lightning_strike_count]]]
>             input =  strike_count
>
>         [[[rain]]]
>             input = rain_total
>
>         [[[lightning_strike_distance]]]
>             input = strike_distance
>
> [Accumulator]
>     [[lightning_count]]
>         extractor = last
>
>     [[lightning_strike_last_distance]]
>         extractor = last
> #        merger = minmax
>
>     [[lighting_strike_min_distance]]
>         extractor = min
> #        merger = minmax
>
>     [[lightning_strike_count_start]]
>         extractor = min
>     [[lightning_strike_count_last]]
>         extractor = last
>
> If these work then I will start pulling the datetime information.    I 
> believe that the SDR has a datatime available that I plan to then:
>
> lightning_strike_last_time = datetime if lightning_strike_count>0 else None
>
> if lightning_strike_last_distance is <= lightning_strike_min_dstance then 
> lightning_strike_min_time = lighting_strike_last_time
>
> and accumulate with
>     [[lightning_strike_min_time]]
>         extractor = last
>
>     [[lightning_strike_last_time]]
>         extractor = last
>
> random thought of an amature
>
> So far on my testing i have been able to show that the data flows over to 
> hubitat..
>
> My strike counter this morning was (and still is) 78.  that value is going 
> over to hubitat in both the lightning_strike_count_start and 
> lighning_strike_count_last records!!!!
>
> what I now need is some bad weather so that I can see if the count_start 
> does not increment untill the new day (or acurite atlas reset) and that 
> strike_count_last value increments correctly.
> then the next day I expect count_start to be set to the new value which 
> was the last count of the previous day.  Or if atlas reset the value to 
> zero (roll over of power reset) that it is set to zero and count_last is 
> operating as expected.
>
> After that I will be testing if the distance values are working 
> correctly...
>
> then I will be testing the time values to see if they are working 
> correctly.
>
> All will be compared to the data being sent to MyAcurite by the acurite 
> hubs.
>
> Any thoughts would be very much appreciated!
>
> THanks
>
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2026 at 10:51:29 AM UTC-4 Patrick Sifford wrote:
>
>> Thanks...   very interesting read!!!
>>
>> we are going two different directions on how to make this work.   You 
>> have a much more elegant process that I want to get into to and play with 
>> sometime.  Because of my lack of knowledge I was looking at a more brute 
>> force (which normally means wrong) way of doing this.  
>>
>> My thought on time was to set the nearest time = present time when 
>> present strike distance is equal to or closer to nearest strike...  
>> and setting present time = present time when there is a strike.
>>
>> not really databasing it but getting the value available for hubitat...  
>>   
>>
>> However, looking at your solution it looks really tasty...   If I get 
>> mine working...   or run into a brick wall that is there  I will look at 
>> what you got...   tempting as it means there are somethings I can learn 
>> from it!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> P.S.  
>>
>> it was suppose to rain this morning so I was hoping that we would get 
>> some lightning....   neither of rain or lightning.  So I am going to make 
>> it look good and then will post for you to look at.  Would love to have a 
>> test that runs with lightning and switch over at mid night.
>>
>> THanks 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 5, 2026 at 9:56:06 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>> I'm looking forward to what you come up with. I did some work and you 
>>> can find it here, 
>>> https://github.com/bellrichm/WeeWX-Extras/blob/master/bin/user/observationtime.py
>>> Basically I store the first/last/min/max of an observation for the 
>>> archive period. A bit more information is here, 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/weewx-user/c/oQPj0cuYMZw/m/EJvMn6ggAQAJ
>>> It is totally an experiment, so it no install and real documentation; 
>>> but maybe something in it will be useful to you.
>>> rich
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 5 August 2026 at 08:00:14 UTC-4 Patrick Sifford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Your information was very useful.   I think I have a handle on most 
>>>> things that I am trying to get through.  What I am trying to do is to have 
>>>> values for daily lightning strikes, nearest strike (and its time), and 
>>>> latest strike (and its time) available to send to Hubitat (That is the 
>>>> easy 
>>>> part for me).
>>>>
>>>> One thing that i did not see (may of skipped over it) in the wiki page 
>>>> is the time period of a accumulator.  It was looking like it was a 
>>>> loop/archive interval, but i found out that happenned to be my data.  From 
>>>> reading around it seems that accumulators reset to 0 at midnight.  Once I 
>>>> got over that I was able (I think... still waiting on a thunderstorm to 
>>>> check it out) to get a lightning count for the day:
>>>>
>>>> lightning_count_start = the min value of strike_count (choose the min 
>>>> versus first incase acurite atlas resets the value during the day for any 
>>>> reason)
>>>> lightning_count_now = the last value of strike_count
>>>> lightning_count = lightning_count_now - lightning_count_start
>>>>
>>>> then put lightning_count into an accumulator for the last.
>>>>
>>>> finding the min and last lightning distance is easy also....      What 
>>>> I can not find any reference on is :
>>>>
>>>> Once I have the min lightning distance (or the last)  how do I 
>>>> determine the time of that strike?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 2, 2026 at 12:33:43 PM UTC-4 Patrick Sifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tom  
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks...    I think that will help
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen other structures to the Delta functions...   Ill give this 
>>>>> a try
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 1, 2026 at 5:45:37 PM UTC-4 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Accumulators are documented here 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Accumulators>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, there is no documentation for deltas, but they are 
>>>>>> pretty simple. If you have some extensive quantity, say "tide", and 
>>>>>> you want to calculate "delta_tide" as the difference in tide between 
>>>>>> archive records, it would look like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [StdWXCalculate]
>>>>>>   [[Delta]]
>>>>>>     [[[delta_tide]]]
>>>>>>       input = tide
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2026 at 2:13 PM Patrick Sifford <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any where a definitive and correct set of documents that 
>>>>>>> discuss how to use deltas and accumulators and their formats?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to work on Acurite Atlas Rain and Lightning sensors and 
>>>>>>> get confused when I read different discussions on the topics.  I think 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> rain is taken care of (somewhere various rain items are calculated 
>>>>>>> (rainToday, rain24, ... ) that I am able to take advantage of.  
>>>>>>> However, I 
>>>>>>> do not seem to find similar items for Lightning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have also found multiple solutions which do not seem to be 
>>>>>>> solutions...   and they all seem to be using different formats of how 
>>>>>>> deltas and accumulator's work.   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not looking for the solution ...    looking for good reasonable 
>>>>>>> documentation of how these things work to include extractors...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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