right, the ones who are responsible shouldn't be claiming that they speak for all Muslims.
--- In [email protected], "Daria Akers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not all factions of Islam are in conflict with Judaism or Christianity. The > number of Muslim who respect and coexist with other religions VASTLY > outnumber those who don't but we don't see stories about them. > Not all terrorist are Muslims. Timothy McVeigh was Christian, IRA - > Christian. > My father was Muslim (non-practicing) from Iran. He literally cries when he > reads about the state of Iran now. > It is very sad when a whole group of people are painted by the same brush... > > Daria > > On 8/11/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > oh I'm SURE there is an attitude of, they got away with it on 9/11, > > why wouldn't we get away with it now? These people obviously have no > > respect for their own lives, not to mention anyone else's. In my > > religion, Judaism, if you take your own life you aren't allowed to be > > buried in a Jewish cemetery. At least I think that's the rule. This > > whole "martyrdom" thing just doesn't fly with the us Jews. Islam has > > been in conflict with Judaism and Christianity forever, literally, > > and it ain't getting any better now. Just more advanced and > > effective means of destruction. I don't think Mohammed really > > preached for his followers to destroy everyone who doesn't follow his > > teachings, but I honestly don'tknow for sure. > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Daria Akers" > > <daria.akers@> wrote: > > > > > > If it wasn't for 9/11 who knows if they would have been plotting > > this? Our > > > "war on terror" might be breeding terroist who feel like they have > > nothing > > > to lose and EVERYTHING (marderdom) to gain. > > > I could be wrong (and I am guessing that the people here will > > gladly share > > > their point) but it sure seems like the number and scale of > > terrorist > > > activities have excalated since Sept 11th. Examples the London bus/ > > train > > > bombings, the Madrid Bombings. Before Sept. 11th there were > > terrorost events > > > but not on the scale (like the Cole bombing, and the attack on the > > US > > > embassies in Africa, bombing of the parking garage of the twin > > towers). Not > > > only that but civilians are now acceptable and actually prefered > > targets.... > > > when before it seemed to be more government and military targets. > > > The truth is we don't know what MAJOR plans were stopped before > > Sept 11th. > > > There was no need publicize the fact that the governement stopped a > > plot > > > because the goal was not "to keep our people scared". The general > > public, > > > pre- 9/11 was oblivious to the threat and that was fine. As the > > government > > > attempts to limit personal freedoms they HAVE to keep us scared or > > we > > > wouldn't put up with it. > > > That's just my two cents for what is worth. > > > Daria > > > PS I am not a conspiacy freak who believes that the US helped or > > knowingly > > > ignored the Sept 11 event but I do beieve that the current > > governement had > > > plans to invade Iraq BEFORE Sept 11. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/11/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > OK point taken, this is the least of my worries. But I am > > pretty > > > > sure that if it weren't for 9/11 they wouldn't have stopped this. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com> > > <weingartenchatters% > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > "Max H." <MaxH42@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Probably anyone who regularly uses duct tape or a soldering iron > > > > would > > > > > know about the can, we even have a mass-manufactured version at > > > > home; > > > > > I also happen to read spy novels and books on computer security > > for > > > > > fun. These are like puzzles. > > > > > > > > > > For example, you could buy a can of Coke, modify it, go to the > > > > > airport, buy another, ditch it or drink it quickly, and use the > > > > > receipt to prove you just bought your modified can. Very easy. > > > > > > > > > > -Max H. > > > > > > > > > > On 8/11/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure if I really want to know how/why you know this, > > > > unless > > > > > > it is common knowledge or common knowledge among readers of > > murder > > > > > > mysteries or something. I was thinking if I bought the can at > > the > > > > > > airport and had a receipt then I wouldn't have had the > > > > opportunity to > > > > > > do all that between buying it and boarding, but now I'm just > > > > > > quibbling. Grrr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com> > > <weingartenchatters% > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > "Max H." <MaxH42@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, will all terrorists please leave the chat room? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We'll wait.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messing with a can of soda is quite easy. A Dremel tool and > > some > > > > > > Krazy > > > > > > > Glue will let you open up a can, replace its contents, and > > put > > > > it > > > > > > back > > > > > > > together so that no one would notice (if you cut right > > under the > > > > > > > folded over rim at the very top). Heck, it's a somewhat > > popular > > > > > > method > > > > > > > of hiding valuables. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my guess is that they'll only allow the prescreened > > beverages > > > > > > > brought on by the airline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, there are lots easier ways to hide liquids than a > > > > can, > > > > > > > involving capsules, condoms, or baggies. Or one > > > > cleaning/maintenance > > > > > > > person who has access to the plane during the preboard > > routine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But don't let any of that discourage you from flying. All > > this > > > > was > > > > > > > possible both before and after 9/11, and the methods I've > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > have never been used successfully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Max H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/10/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > why would you have to buy them there? You can just pack > > them > > > > in > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > suitcase. As I said I'm not planning to take a shower on > > the > > > > > > > > airplane. It's the water and stuff like that, although > > they > > > > > > usually > > > > > > > > give you drinks even if they are skimpy on the food. What > > I'm > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > curious about is whether you can take unopened canned > > drinks > > > > on > > > > > > board, > > > > > > > > and if not why not. Do they really think people are > > > > sophisticated > > > > > > > > enough to mess around with unopened canned drinks? Those > > > > things > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > airtight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > [email protected] <weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com> > > <weingartenchatters% > > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > Tony Richards > > > > > > > > <tonyrichards@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well we were due to fly to Heathrow from Dulles > > tonight, but > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > I bought the tix > > > > > > > > > my son's cousin decided to get married this weekend. > > > > However, > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > > rescheduled for > > > > > > > > > December and have no plans to cancel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for not carrying on toothpaste and shampoo, I > > remember > > > > > > reading > > > > > > > > > somewhere that there > > > > > > > > > are places in the UK where these can be purchased. These > > > > > > places are > > > > > > > > > called shops. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I'm in the mood, why oh why, do people complain > > about > > > > not > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > allowed to take > > > > > > > > > nail-clippers. I can go a few hours without a manicure, > > and > > > > > > I'm sure > > > > > > > > > I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for bottled water, just drink 3-4 liters before > > security > > > > > > then spend > > > > > > > > > the flight recycling > > > > > > > > > your urine. I have a gift for the obvious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone need any other advice, just drop me a line. Glad > > I > > > > > > could be > > > > > > > > of help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ellen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > no kidding. I wasn't really planning to bring > > toiletries > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > carryon anyway--what am I going to do with shampoo-- > > take a > > > > > > shower on > > > > > > > > > > the plane? But things like regular bottled drinking > > > > water, > > > > > > what the > > > > > > > > > > hell? Sure I'll taste my own bottled water before > > > > boarding > > > > > > if you > > > > > > > > > > insist. They keep telling us to bring our own food, > > now > > > > we > > > > > > won't be > > > > > > > > > > able to because we might have secretly hidden > > explosives > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > applesauce? The fast food places in the airport > > advertise > > > > > > flight > > > > > > > > > > meals. They think they're saving money by not feeding > > us > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > plane--all they're really doing is giving us more > > > > opporunity > > > > > > to make > > > > > > > > > > secret bombs out of chocolate pudding. or something > > like > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > We're all going to hell and it's too late to turn > > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --Max H., moderator Freecycle Olney, MD, Freecycle Rockville > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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