Hi..

The messenger is capable travel behind NAT and firewals. In my opinion, that
is possible if the port is known as a default port like 80 or 443 or some
ftp or some else known port which is opened in the firewalls.  But very
often the incoming traffic is blocked by firewalls, so the stream like (udp)
traffic is blocked away.. that's a problem.. The stream should be packet by
STUN or some else.. so it is cabaple to travel throught firewalls, and NAT's

-tomi






-----Original Message-----
From: Jérôme WAGNER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19. lokakuuta 2006 10:26
To: 'Tomi Luhtala'; 'Sebastien Tricaud'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Wengophone-devel] is it improvable: firewall pass through

Hello,

NAT/Firewall traversing is dealt with at the same time so some people
mention NAT, some people mention Firewall, but the whole thing is dealt with
at the same time because it is deeply interlaced.

STUN does a lot of things to traverse Firewall, but you can never be too
sure with STUN. That's why they invented TURN and then ICE. That's also why
there are strategies to use port 80,443, UDP or TCP.

Sébastien is right. The only way to solve Steven problem is to better
understand the Nat/Firewall environment when he made is test, and see how
WengoPhone / Skype tried to find its way out.

Steven: 2 ethereal traces of the 2 different tests could be handy in order
to try and understand something. Also the logs from WengoPhone.

Jerome
Ps: for more information on Skype's strategy for example, you have this kind
of old document:
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~library/TR-repository/reports/reports-2004/cucs
-039-04.pdf



-----Message d'origine-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Tomi
Luhtala
Envoyé : jeudi 19 octobre 2006 08:51
À : Sebastien Tricaud
Cc : [email protected]
Objet : Re: [Wengophone-devel] is it improvable: firewall pass through


Hi..

It was Firewall not NAT.. the stun should be capable to travel throught
Firewalls..

-tomi





On 19/Oct/2006 09:28 Sebastien Tricaud wrote ..
> xu w wrote:
> > Hello
> 
> Hello Steven,
> 
> > We did a side-by-side test between wengo and skype behind an
> > enterprise firewall. Apparently, Skype was successful bun Wengo
> > wasn't. Our test is nothing but a simple user test. I wonder if there
> > is possibility to improve Wengo on this issue.
> 
> Sure. We can always improve anything reported by contributors :)
> Can you explain to us what kind of NAT are you through ?
> 
> 
> Thank you very much for reporting this issue,
> 
> Str.
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