Fr.Ruffino,
Thanks for offering us a snap shot of some of the views of the people you have
been able to talk to about the performance of students in West Nile. Those are
the kind of views we need to gather from the whole of West Nile if possible.
Andema and Patrick have hit the nail right on the head about data to
subsantiate those responses. The importance of data is vital for us to
view,analyse and illustrate the nature and magnitude of the problem. I am glad
Jimmy Adriko has offered to look into getting some data in their library. I
posted a sample data which I got from the limited database Ministry of
Education has on their web site on the WestNileNet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19 but
I did not see what I wrote in the issue and neither the whole sample date I
posted except a sample of the data associated with secondary schools. I wonder
if any of you read the article I submitted with some sample primary schoo and
secondary school data. From what I observed from that data I posted,
infrastructure and policy issues in the education have just equally a very
serious impact as some of the problems Fr.Ruffino got a snap shot of from the
public.
We need to have some data for the last several years back for us to baseline
our arguements about poor performance in schools. One of the things the Task
Force may need to think about id doing what is called Asset Mapping on
Education, where we gather information on or document all the available
resources we have for Education and also document all our expections of
education in West Nile. From such a documention a Gap analysis can be
established to evaluate and rate the problems we are facing so that priorities
can be set based on what we have at hand and what we lack to achieve our
expectations.
Thank you so much Adriko for volunteering to provide us with some data which I
believe will be very useful for the task Force for the coming meeting. If the
Ambassador who made a statement about education in West Nile will attend the
meeting he needs to be presented with hard empirical facts about his statement
or he needs to defend his arguements with some empirical facts also about the
situation of education in West Nile.
Thanks to all for your contributions
Vasco Oguzua
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> From: Patrick Okuni <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNile Digest, Vol 6, issue 72
> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
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> Hi Father
>
> Thank you for this very simple and snappy, but useful opinion survey. Again
> the substance came from the women!
>
> We need to collect more such opinions and factual information (like the hard
> data you shared on Arua Hill). I am wondering if we could work together to
> get a good Education or Statistics student to do a thesis around this issue,
> to enable us have authentic information to work around with more confidence
> and authority. Let's give it some thought.
>
> Nice week.
>
> Patrick Okuni
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/09, Ruffino Ezama <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ruffino Ezama <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNile Digest, Vol 6, issue 72
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 4:19 PM
>
>
>
> Yes Alaka
> Greetings from Ombaci. I hope all is fine there.
> This morning I went to celebrate Mass at Ewadri (between Abi Farm and
> Oriajini). It was nice to wish women Happy Women's day.
> I asked these people at the end of Mass what (according to them) are causing
> poor results in schools these days. Out of six people who talked five were
> women.
> a) the first woman said this could be attributed too much liking for night
> dances, eating of marungi which makes their interests to be divided
> b) another said she heard on the radio that teachers are poorly paid and they
> dont teach.
> c) another blamed the UPE USE where children are not to be punsihed
> thesedays. Children misbehave, they dont respect teachers and even insult them
> d) one stated that today freedom is free. I dont know what she meant exactly.
> But she continued observing that they buy kersone for these children to study
> and they leave the lamps on while they have sneaked out. Some elderly people
> see these children out at odd times and no body cares about such a situation
> e) another woman said that they parents cant even offer some lunch for these
> children. What they could use for preparing food for them are instead sold in
> the market for cash which is not used for the children.
> f) the only man who spoke pointed out to the children, parents and teachers
> all on the wrong.
>
> I wish you a good sunday, happy women's day to our sisters
> --
> Ruffino Ezama,mccj
> Comboni Missionaries
> P.O Box 3872
> Kampala
> Uganda
> (+256 77 2 62 42 40)
> (+256 75 2 62 42 40)
>
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> From: Ruffino Ezama <[email protected]>
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> Yes Patrick
> Thanks for your quick note.
> I fully concur with the idea of having someone do a thesis on that. We shall
> our the educationists (dr Odama, Dr Ayikoru, Simon anguma's etc) to look
> into that
> Looking forward to meeting you on the reuinion day.
>
>
> --
> Ruffino Ezama,mccj
> Comboni Missionaries
> P.O Box 3872
> Kampala
> Uganda
> (+256 77 2 62 42 40)
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> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: samuel andema <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNile Digest, Vol 6, issue 72
> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
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> Hi Patrick,
>
> Thank you for responding to fr Rofino's mail. Am glad you too see the need to
> be armed with hard facts and figures to confront the challenge. It is the
> best tool we can use to make our case.
>
> I wonder what kind of researces our students at the universities are doing. I
> would expect many students to be competin to research on such practical
> problems at all levels. Unfortunately the kind of education offered at the
> universities these days does not prepare students to be of any use to
> practical problems afflicting us. They would rather concoct abstract things
> to get first class only to fail miserably in life.
>
> I hope some one will follow Mr Adriko to volunteer to compile for us a
> statistical data on the poor performance for five or even ten years in the
> past across westnile.
>
> I like the work you did on the declining performance in Ombaci in your
> proposal for the reward project. The statistics speaks for itself. The
> comparisons are so obvous to make. No wonder you were the best UCE candidate
> in the whole of Uganda in 1985. God bless. One of these days you have to
> seriously consider taking the PhD path. I have no doubt what so ever that you
> will make it in record time.
>
> Thank you and have a blessed week
>
> Sam Andema
> University of British Columbia
> Vancouver
> Canada
>
> --- On Mon, 9/3/09, Patrick Okuni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Patrick Okuni <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNile Digest, Vol 6, issue 72
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, 9 March, 2009, 8:31 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Father
>
> Thank you for this very simple and snappy, but useful opinion survey. Again
> the substance came from the women!
>
> We need to collect more such opinions and factual information (like the hard
> data you shared on Arua Hill). I am wondering if we could work together to
> get a good Education or Statistics student to do a thesis around this issue,
> to enable us have authentic information to work around with more confidence
> and authority. Let's give it some thought.
>
> Nice week.
>
> Patrick Okuni
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/09, Ruffino Ezama <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ruffino Ezama <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNile Digest, Vol 6, issue 72
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, 8 March, 2009, 4:19 PM
>
>
>
> Yes Alaka
> Greetings from Ombaci. I hope all is fine there.
> This morning I went to celebrate Mass at Ewadri (between Abi Farm and
> Oriajini). It was nice to wish women Happy Women's day.
> I asked these people at the end of Mass what (according to them) are causing
> poor results in schools these days. Out of six people who talked five were
> women.
> a) the first woman said this could be attributed too much liking for night
> dances, eating of marungi which makes their interests to be divided
> b) another said she heard on the radio that teachers are poorly paid and they
> dont teach.
> c) another blamed the UPE USE where children are not to be punsihed
> thesedays. Children misbehave, they dont respect teachers and even insult them
> d) one stated that today freedom is free. I dont know what she meant exactly.
> But she continued observing that they buy kersone for these children to study
> and they leave the lamps on while they have sneaked out. Some elderly people
> see these children out at odd times and no body cares about such a situation
> e) another woman said that they parents cant even offer some lunch for these
> children. What they could use for preparing food for them are instead sold in
> the market for cash which is not used for the children.
> f) the only man who spoke pointed out to the children, parents and teachers
> all on the wrong.
>
> I wish you a good sunday, happy women's day to our sisters
> --
> Ruffino Ezama,mccj
> Comboni Missionaries
> P.O Box 3872
> Kampala
> Uganda
> (+256 77 2 62 42 40)
> (+256 75 2 62 42 40)
>
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
> www.tualu.org
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