Dear Mr Avudria,
Many thanks for herding back to outstanding issues: Ladies and Gentlemen, We invite discussions on this topic. As you are aware, we are all busy people who are highly committed in our respective callings. The Foundation as you have seen from the message from your leadership has great ideas which it must start implementing. For things to move forward, we need an administrator/coordinator who will be a volunteer but with some remunerations. He/She can work say three times a day. We can get a laptop, air time for the Internet, and facilitate the person in the event of upcountry assignments. Such a person can be a graduate and be in charge of our programs like the Development of our Strategic plan, Vision and mission statement. She/He will coordinate all our activities. We intend to charge a yearly subscription fee which we shall discuss latter." My view is that for one to engage in discussing such imperative issues at hand, a good background information is required. Hence, I am requesting the leadership of WNF to make documents pertaining Strategic plan, Vision, mission statement, and constitution accessible to members; I, for one, have not seen such documentations. Regards, Sebastian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 17, Issue 59 Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: West Nile Foundation (banduga ismail) 2. Re: Re: Fw: MASU granduation party (Ezama Ruffino) 3. Re: Re:Regional Tier (Dimba Tabani Patrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:24:36 +0000 (GMT) From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] West Nile Foundation To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Brothers and sisters, I must say I have learnt of this brilliant ideas just a few days ago. So I consider myself a late comer. Never the less, I get a picture. The development of WNF is one and the main agenda, the discussions, political, social, developmental, educational something we can do on the forum. If we are not moving fast enough with the development of WNF because we are busy in our respective callings, then the need to have someone specific becomes apparent. I think we need to develop a precise TOR for this function and operationalize it. Thank you, Banduga Ismail --- On Mon, 25/1/10, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: From: JohnAJackson <[email protected]> Subject: [WestNileNet] West Nile Foundation To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 25 January, 2010, 14:46 Dear Colleageues, The president of WNF posted this message for commemnds, suggestions, recommendations or discussion. We need you help on this iissue. This issue has been marred by other topics that cropped up. Please give us you commends Ladies and Gentlemen, We invite discussions on this topic. As you are aware, we are all busy people who are highly committed in our respective callings. The Foundation as you have seen from the message from your leadership has great ideas which it must start implementing. For things to move forward, we need an administrator/coordinator who will be a volunteer but with some remunerations. He/She can work say three times a day. We can get a laptop, air time for the Internet, and facilitate the person in the event of upcountry assignments. Such a person can be a graduate and be in charge of our programs like the Development of our Strategic plan, Vision and mission statement. She/He will coordinate all our activities. We intend to charge a yearly subscription fee which we shall discuss latter. Thanks Remember we are all busy professionals in our careers. How do we mobe ahead to implement the WNF agenda? Organizing meeting in the evenings once a while or weekends, whenever is not effective in making the agenda of WNF materialize. The need to have someone coordianate activities is very agent if we want WNF to be successful. 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URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100126/90eb2351 /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:26:13 -0500 From: Ezama Ruffino <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Fw: MASU granduation party To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bwana Ezaga Nice to hear from you. It was just to say we are missing in action with your valuable westnilic wisdom. Some joke was needed. R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100126/b7c7d7d9 /attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:51:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dimba Tabani Patrick <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re:Regional Tier To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Goodafternoon Honourable Vasco Oguzua.I was immensely impressed by your article on REGIONAL TIER.Keepup brother.Failed Government doesnot treat all areas equally.So Vasco is absolutely correct in his assertion.Let people stick to their myopic TRIBALNET before causing uncalled confusion in INTELLECTUAL WESTNILENET ________________________________ From: Charles Male <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 11:29:48 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re:Regional Tier Ben, Thank you for your comments. May be I was not clear enough in my response to Vasco's input. To be specific I was referring to his assertion, and I quote : We have a failed government in Uganda in all aspects of what government activities are with respect to the lives of its citizens. This is a motherload statement which in my own humble opinion is a little bit exaggerated! Secondly, when I say If we want to criticize govt, who ever wishes should create another forum for that... I did NOT say or IMPLY that Vasco should be disconnected from Westnilenet; it means exatly that - create ANOTHER FORUM specifically for that purpose so that those who want to indulge in that art of criticism can confortably do so while those who don't want to, can be spared from being associated / labelled as anti-gov't just because they belong to westnilenet. I beleive I am the one who who opted for disconnection and did NOT ask anyne else to be disconnected. Many of us/our people have been "guilty" by association. I remember a West Nile Ugandan Canadian gentleman who used to organize conferences in Canada that were very critical of the Ugandan gov't. We who came from West Nile were labelled fas antigov't even by our the Ugandan canadians we socialized with and we were treated as "suspects" whenever we visted Uganda. Ben, I am no saint when it comes to the criticism of inaction by our leaders (and will continue to do so) but that has never led to any meaningful solution. Many of us are managers/executives in our respective domains and I beleive in that capacity we should start focusing on developing win-win relationships by focusing on the positive aspects of what others have done and not just their deficiencies. I thought Vasco was proposed as one of the Directors of West Nile Foundation (WNF) -- in my on humble opinion, directors should look at positive ways of influencing the gov't -- we don't want the WNF to be labelled "antigov't". I may be totally out to lunch so to speak for I thought the purpose of West Nile net is to discuss the challenges facing west nile and develop practical solutions that can be implemented with or without the support of the national and local governments of Uganda. Do we want westnilenet to be an extension of the opposition parties? May be Kiggundu could send out the purpose of westnile net again. Charles On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Bernard Bonton Obaa <[email protected]> wrote: Charles, > >While I don't necessarily agree with Vasco on his objection to formation of a regional tier system of governance, I can see where he is coming from. I may be wrong, it seems his point is that discussing the regional tier system is misguided and an utter waste of time, given the shortfalls of the current decentralization policy. Some may agree with him and others may not. Apparently, you are one of those apposed to his views. But to say that those who bash the current government be removed from here because they are endangering the lives of those working for it, in my view, shows intolerance and inability to debate with those we don't agree with. This is one of the biggest problems with our leaders. Treating people who oppose them as enemies. I think we should debate with those who don't agree with us and make them see our point instead of advocating for removal (in this forum) and putting them in "safe" houses (at national level). Constructive criticism is absolutely necessary for progress. If we can not be allowed to discuss what has or hasn't worked for our region, how can we then get new ways of solving the region's problems? > >Cheers, > >Ben > > >On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Charles Male <[email protected]> wrote: > >Dear Vasco, >> >>We pray that the family issues have been resolved to satisfaction. >> >>I would like to make an observation based on your input below. I think we should cease and desist from criticizing the legitimate government of Uganda if we want to West Nile Net to be a forum to discuss development of west nile region. Many of colleagues on this forum work for the Uganda government directly or for the various organs that receive funding from the government. We do not like to put their lives in danger for belonging to westnilenet as they are here to debate with us challenges and solutions facing west nile as a region. If we want to criticize govt, who ever wishes should create another forum for that.... >> >>We should find ways of working together with the govt to better the lives of our people. We should use the wisdom we have attained over the years to negotiate with government. If what I have said is wrong, then I am probably on the wrong forum and I will gladly ask myself to be removed from West Nile net. >> >>Thanks. >>Charles Male >> >> >>On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Fellow Members of West Nile Forum, >>> >>>I have not been an avid contributor of the discussion on this forum due to some family issues. However, I have glanced over some of the issue in discussion and the views expressed by Mr. Taban and Sebastian advocating for Regional Tier. >>>In my view we have to talk about this issue of Regional Tier from the perspective of how this issue came about. Lets question when this issue became a serious debate in the national affairs of Uganda. Regional Tiers and allocation of Counties into districts are not mutually exclusive. >>>The development of a region should not really depend on if there is regional Tier or not of if there is Federo or not, but on if the leaders of Uganda are truly serious about the development of the country. >>>We have a failed government in Uganda in all aspects of what government activities are with respect to the lives of its citizens. We have a situation in Uganda in which the leaders of Uganda seem to suggest they are doing a favour to the citizens rather than caring about the basics aspects of the well being of citizens. >>>Unfortunately, the citizens of Uganda have been made to feel they are helpless, and have absolutely no pride and obligation in their daily lives including their hard earned occupation for which they have toiled for many years of education. The citizens have lost their God given right to live with integrity to the power be. >>>Can some one explain to me why inspite of the millions of dollars being poured into Uganda for Education, health and agriculture, the state of Education, Health and agriculture are so poor compared to the last 30 years or so? >>>Can someone tell me why people who have become rich in Uganda through corruption are more respected than the professional who earns his/her meagre money through hard work? >>>The issue of Regional Tier is not for Development as Taban and Sebastian seem to suggest, but a Divide and Rule premise to control , intimidate and antagonize the people. We should not waste time to play into this argument of Regional tier without examining how it came into existence. Has West Nile developed better by breaking the region into 7 districts? Will West nile be better developed by the more districts they are creating in Nebbi. >>>I think our focus on this forum should not be about regional tier government, but we from West Nile can do for ourselves to develop our region. We have to take charge of what we need to for our region rather than expect being given regional tier. The government is not working for us what can we for ourselves and our Region should be the question we need to ask ourselves individually and collectively. >>>Why cant we talk about our newly found West Nile Foundation rather than government manipulation of Regional Tier or allocation of Counties into Districts???? >>> >>> >>>________________________________ Spread the cheer with Messenger for mobile. 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