My dear brothers, Thanks for all your ideas. I like such healthy debate and arguments. I really dont like affirmative action. Look at all positions created for women in our government structures, have they yielded any fruits? I am not sure. Therefore, ladies should liberate themselves using the education that there parents have given them.
I dont even mean to say that women should undermine men, when they get the slim chance. what I mean to say is we are all equally important to each other and we should work mutually. Leadership should be on merit not on sex or gender. If for example I dont have qualities for the post, period! I dont deserve it. So when we are selecting it must be on merit. The bussiness of putting women incharge of food when even there are better male cheffs, or putting a woman as a chairperson to please gender is what I dont believe in. Yes the list of brialiant women in Uganda is long. Look at Winnie, she is an engineer and must have done PCM, Specioza must have done PCB subjects supposedly for men. This means they were determined females right from day go. Self determination starts at early stage not when we are now graduates and you give me a post to appease gender, I will remain useless until my term ends. So please, if you have daughters, dont tell them "A is for boys, B is for girls".Dont only buy baby girls dolls but car toys, helicopters etc.If you get your wife telling your son,"boys dont cry, dont cook, dont fetch water" etc. "Girls role is in the kitchen, secretaries,nurses, or house wives" please shut her up. Many behaviors we are portraying are things told to us by mothers. By this we shall save our next generation. I am afriad we may not do much with the current generation. Equality is taking responsibility not just standing next to a man and saying we are equal.If I cant contribute towards food at home, children's fees, rent, utility bills or the construction of the family house, it becomes difficult for me to say we are equal, on what basis? So women should wake up and start taking up responsibility. It is suprising that in the villages or in the suburbs where many people are unemplyed, the women actually take charge of the family in almost everything but in the cities, the elite ladies are running after men's landcruisers, pajeros, BMWs in exchange for goodies. Yet many of these ladies could actully afford if they were focused. Look at our women selling papyrus in the cities, many of their husbands do nothing but they are the adored family heads.I am sure many of us were paid by our mothers or other women but it is unfortunate such women dont get recognized. While you mention those women who always appear on Newspapers, I have regard for all those poor women in the villages who take sole responsibility of their families with no recognition and are suffering abuses silently. That is why I get annoyed for Patriachy. let us give credit where it is due. Efforts both by women and men must be appreciated. We are all human beings. So Milton, what happened to our ladies in the committees? were they abscent or not qualified? Christine ________________________________ From: Robert Ejiku <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, April 24, 2010 10:42:56 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 20, Issue 11 Hi Milton, What has Queen Elizabeth really done?? Just joking given that she can't even dress herself and has to be helped to do so. Do you know how difficult women find gomesi to put on? They will need the assistance of four other women and that is where the real problem starts. Otherwise I think Christine was spot on and our ladies need to get out and claim their rightful place ofcourse next to the men. Thanks my friends. Ejiku On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM, anguyo milton <[email protected]> wrote: Come on Christine...the ladies finally need to step out and actually contribute.They have a role to play like their male counterparts. > >It is very unfair for our female colleagues to take the easy wayout and sit >back and relax.Men can not have a monopoly in all affairs ! There're several >women whose contribution to leadership need to be recognized e.g.Winnie >Byanyima,Betty Nambooze,Margaret Thatcher,Specioza Kazibwe,Queen >Elizabeth,Corazon Aquino,etc-they built their leadership because they were >bold and worked hard to earn their reputations. > >It is speculation "I am sure even if ladies were present at the time of >formation of committees, nobody, including the ladies".......ladies come out >and show what programs they have and if they prove to be the best....we'll >vote for you not on affirmative action but the good ideas you have and the >strength and credibility of your candidacy. > >No stereotype must prevent our ladies who genuinely wish to offer ideas that >will be embraced by all. > >Ladies and gentlemen,we'll support the best ideas ! > >Milton > > >--- On Thu, 4/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> >wrote: > > >>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 20, Issue 11 >>To: [email protected] >>Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 5:00 AM >> >> >>Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: State of Affairs (christine munduru) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:52:21 -0700 (PDT) >>From: christine munduru <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] State of Affairs >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >>Dear all, >> I appreciate all the work you are doing and encourage you to continue. >>I concur with Wendy, but I think it is not solely the problem of the ladies >>, or even the men that the women are inactive/passive but the >>patriachy status which is adored too much especially by Westnilers, men and >>women inclusive. How many of our brothers in this net regard and treat their >>wives the way they would want to be treated? If our brother treats his wife >>like a first class citizen, we say he is "controlled" by this woman, may be >>even biwitched, a common term used which I dont subscribe to. Therefore he >>should treat her like second class citizen and he, the first class that is >>when we say he is a man. If a man has no regard for his wife, it is very >>unlikely that he will do the same to any other woman. It is unfortunate that >>we ladies also promote this alot and we feel we are second class citizens >>and any woman who stands up also becomes an enemy to fellow women. This >>ideology has shut up women. In this scenario tell me which >>woman wants to stand up and oppose the wind, even if the lady has excellent >>ideas, it doesnt matter. It must come from a man to be considered worthy. >>Some of us have got names for doing this, which for me is an honor and it >>gives me more energy. But most ladies choose to "remain feminine" and >>therefore passive, to avoid risks of being labelled, let the men "who know" >>take lead and women, the "flock" which is exactly what makes our Westnile >>community happy. It needs a deliberate effort by both men and women to bring >>women to leadership. Otherwise, we are comfortable in our back seats. I am >>sure even if ladies were present at the time of formation of committees, >>nobody, including the ladies, would have voted for a lady as committee >>head. Perhaps the ladies are just members as usual within the committees. >>Can we know the membership of the committees? >> >>Thanks >> >>Munduru >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:13:47 AM >>Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] State of Affairs >> >> >>Thanks Caleb, >> >>However, what happened to the Ladies of Westnile? I don’t see any active >>participation/role that they are taking to champion some of these committees? >>I kind of feel our role is too passive. >> >>When do these committees get formed? How do we who have just recently got >>access to the [email protected] network get actively involved minus only >>giving contributions on email etc. >> >>Regards, >> >>Wendy. >> >> >>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>Behalf Of Caleb Alaka >>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:42 AM >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >>Subject: [WestNileNet] State of Affairs >> >>Ladies and Gentlemen, We are not dead but we are seriously doing work. We >>gave ourselves time for each committee to accomplish its assignement and in >>due course you will get a volcanic result. For avoidance of doubt we have the >>following adhoc committees which are in advance stages of tackling its tasks. >>The Public University in West Nile committee headed by Eng. Okuni Patrick, >>the Father Ruffino Educational committee headed by Amb. Achema Harold, the >>Ngaka Effort on Rural adult literacy program, a committee on documentation of >>our affairs headed by myself. A West Nile Night committee headed by Afema >>Robert, and the inauguration committee headed by Charles Dra-ecabo. >> >>________________________________ >>NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see >>http://www.mtn.co.ug/Legal/Email-disclaimer.aspx >> >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>URL: >>http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100421/dddb1181/attachment-0001.html >> >>------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>WestNileNet mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> >>End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 20, Issue 11 >>******************************************* >> > >_______________________________________________ >WestNileNet mailing list >[email protected] >http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >attachments if any). 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