Thanks Jackson. I have it in plan but have not tried it. Need to talk to radio pacis and if we had a volunteer in Arua, that would be very helpful. Can any of the Arua based guys volunteer for us? It is abit of a challenge to operate it from Kampala. But nothing is impossible, we shall find ways to handle it.
Thanks Christine ________________________________ From: JohnAJackson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 9:52:22 PM Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 18 Excellent Public health initiative Is there anyway to partner with Radio PACIS to air some of the outcome of these discussions? Dissemination of this vital information through Radio/TV is essential community outreach initiative to educate thousands who cannot attend the session in person. There is so much we can/could do to prevent death from some diseases. Keep it up Christine, bravo On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Science cafe brief (christine munduru) > 2. Re: Science cafe brief (Kiggundu Mukasa) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) >From: christine munduru <[email protected]> >Subject: [WestNileNet] Science cafe brief >To: West Nile Arua <[email protected]> >Cc: Geofrey Toko <[email protected]>, Ben Droti > <[email protected]>, Patrice Mawa <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Dear all, >In the last science cafe, members agreed that we write a brief of the >discussions and post to westnile net and also put the next topic for discussion. >Unfortunately this was agreed after the cafe had ended so I will just write what >I can remember. Next time we shall suggest a raportuer. > >The topic was intellectual property and access to medicines. This topic was >important becuase of the pending counterfeit goods bill in parliament that has >defined counterfeit in broad terms to include generic medicines which Uganda >depends on > > >ØDef: Intellectual property rights refers to a bundle of rights awarded by >society to individuals or organisations over creative works: inventions, >literary and artistic works and symbols, names, images, designs as a bargain >that the outcomes of the rights will benefit society at large. > >Ø >ØIPRs generally can be categorised as follows: * Ø * Ø > * ØArtistic and Literary Property (cultural creations) * ØCopyright >Patents, >Industrial designs, Trademarks, Geographical Indications, Trade Secrets, >Geographical Indications > >Incase of patents, the individual is to have exclusive rights for 20 years and >this is where medicines fall. > > Brand medicines Vs generic medicinesIndustrial Property (functional commercial >innovations), > >Brand medicines are those that are produced by the people(scientists) who >innovated them and according to international laws, they patent such drugs for >20 years without anybody reproducing them and are allowed to sell them at >whichever price they want.e.g drugs from USA, UK Germany etc. > >But generic medicines are those which have been reproduced by people who didnt >innovate them. They simply copy the formula and using the data of the >innovaters, reproduce exactly the same drug according to the same international >law.e.g drugs from India and China. > >It is true we have counterfeit goods in Uganda but the aim of the pending law is >to protect IPR which does not belong to Ugandans. This law will not adress the >safety and quality issues instead will limit access to medicines. It will also >limit access to knowledge materials, students will not be able to photocopy text >books, farmers will not replant patent ed seeds etc. > > according to Trade Related Intellectual Property(TRIPS) agreement 1994, >counties were grouped into developed, developing and least developed like >Uganda. LDCs were to become TRIPs compliant in 2013 but incase of >pharmacuetilcals 2016. Developed countries were to become compliant as soon as >the law is operational and developing were to be compliant by 2005. >But Uganda is being pushed to have TRIPs plus laws even before we become TRIPS >compliant thru the counterfeit laws. > >Alot was shared in the discussion but cannot put them here. >members like Akile shared the work they are doing with our very own scientists >in the biosafety committee. Jose shared his expertise on seeds as far as hybrid >seeds are concerned and these were all useful to enrich our knowledge. Okuti >Boroa also shared the gap he has noted between scientists and farmers through >his work. And this is where cafe would come to close such by taking science to >the community. > >Members then realized that Uganda is signing so many documents which will become >a big problem to us in future but as a country we are not well positined to >bargain for good laws at international level. >However, at domestic level we should try to make good domestic laws. But the >challenge noted was also the free trade agreements Adovcacy was proposed as a >way forward but the problem again is lack of such information to the right >people. >Another challenge was also the fact that our country does not invest in research >to support our briliant scientists to do their own research such that they can >patent their own products. > > >As a wayforward, members acknowledged that cafe would be a good way to enrich us >and also come up with some solutions to our own life problems. They asked that >we post key issues discussed here and make sure this continues once a month. > > >The next topic was selected as life style diseases like blood presure, diabetes >and heart diseases. The facilitator was proposed to be our own Dr. Worodria >William. Patrice Mawa was to talk to him first for his availability. > > >Our brother Matenga was then asked to move a vote of thanks to the facilitator >and the discussion went informal. > >Thanks > >Christine > > > >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100908/6ab7e683/attachment-0001.html > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:05:58 +0300 >From: Kiggundu Mukasa <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Science cafe brief >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >Cc: Geofrey Toko <[email protected]>, Ben Droti > <[email protected]>, Patrice Mawa <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Add gout to the lifestyle diseases > > >Kiggs > >On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:39 PM, christine munduru wrote: > >> Dear all, >> In the last science cafe, members agreed that we write a brief of the >>discussions and post to westnile net and also put the next topic for >>discussion. >>Unfortunately this was agreed after the cafe had ended so I will just write >>what >>I can remember. Next time we shall suggest a raportuer. >> >> The topic was intellectual property and access to medicines. This topic was >>important becuase of the pending counterfeit goods bill in parliament that >>has >>defined counterfeit in broad terms to include generic medicines which Uganda >>depends on >> >> >> ØDef: Intellectual property rights refers to a bundle of rights awarded by >>society to individuals or organisations over creative works: inventions, >>literary and artistic works and symbols, names, images, designs as a bargain >>that the outcomes of the rights will benefit society at large. >> Ø >> ØIPRs generally can be categorised as follows: >> ØIndustrial Property (functional commercial innovations), >> ØPatents, Industrial designs, Trademarks, Geographical Indications, Trade >>Secrets, Geographical Indications >> ØArtistic and Literary Property (cultural creations) >> ØCopyright >> Incase of patents, the individual is to have exclusive rights for 20 years >> and >>this is where medicines fall. >> >> >> Brand medicines Vs generic medicines >> >> Brand medicines are those that are produced by the people(scientists) who >>innovated them and according to international laws, they patent such drugs >>for >>20 years without anybody reproducing them and are allowed to sell them at >>whichever price they want.e.g drugs from USA, UK Germany etc. >> >> But generic medicines are those which have been reproduced by people who >> didnt >>innovate them. They simply copy the formula and using the data of the >>innovaters, reproduce exactly the same drug according to the same >>international >>law.e.g drugs from India and China. >> >> It is true we have counterfeit goods in Uganda but the aim of the pending >> law >>is to protect IPR which does not belong to Ugandans. This law will not adress >>the safety and quality issues instead will limit access to medicines. It will >>also limit access to knowledge materials, students will not be able to >>photocopy >>text books, farmers will not replant patent ed seeds etc. >> >> according to Trade Related Intellectual Property(TRIPS) agreement 1994, >>counties were grouped into developed, developing and least developed like >>Uganda. LDCs were to become TRIPs compliant in 2013 but incase of >>pharmacuetilcals 2016. Developed countries were to become compliant as soon >>as >>the law is operational and developing were to be compliant by 2005. >> But Uganda is being pushed to have TRIPs plus laws even before we become >> TRIPS >>compliant thru the counterfeit laws. >> >> Alot was shared in the discussion but cannot put them here. >> members like Akile shared the work they are doing with our very own >> scientists >>in the biosafety committee. Jose shared his expertise on seeds as far as >>hybrid >> seeds are concerned and these were all useful to enrich our knowledge. Okuti >>Boroa also shared the gap he has noted between scientists and farmers through >>his work. And this is where cafe would come to close such by taking science >>to >>the community. >> >> Members then realized that Uganda is signing so many documents which will >>become a big problem to us in future but as a country we are not well >>positined >>to bargain for good laws at international level. >> However, at domestic level we should try to make good domestic laws. But >> the >>challenge noted was also the free trade agreements Adovcacy was proposed as >>a >>way forward but the problem again is lack of such information to the right >>people. >> Another challenge was also the fact that our country does not invest in >>research to support our briliant scientists to do their own research such >>that >>they can patent their own products. >> >> >> As a wayforward, members acknowledged that cafe would be a good way to >> enrich >>us and also come up with some solutions to our own life problems. They asked >>that we post key issues discussed here and make sure this continues once a >>month. >> >> The next topic was selected as life style diseases like blood presure, >> diabetes >>and heart diseases. The facilitator was proposed to be our own Dr. Worodria >>William. Patrice Mawa was to talk to him first for his availability. >> >> Our brother Matenga was then asked to move a vote of thanks to the >> facilitator >>and the discussion went informal. >> >> Thanks >> >> Christine >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WestNileNet mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>attachments if any). 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