Cheers to you all. I believe celebrating the lives of the youth who met their unfortunate death on that eventful night should go no. They heard about about WNF and some partying that goes on in the club. The circumstances that led to their death was unfortunate. Those who were present that night can tell the stories better.
As rightly pointed by Mr. Angusu, we are a team of volunteers trying to lift ourselves, West Nile, our people, culture, etc. Anyone or a group that comes up with creative idea should broad cast it on this forum, recruit more vonunteers to chip in resources or skills. I am optmistic that if we continue to join our heads, hands and spirit together, there is so much we can accomplish as a group. If you read the New Vision last week, under the West Section, there was a big meeting of "Bwanamukigezi conference in Kampala last week. These folks are focused on developing their region. The Baganda group " Gwangamuje" do the same thing, So do the easterners. Around the country, pople are focusing their attention on regional or local issues. When shall we start? Who do we want to come to help us if we cannot help ourselves? It's high time we learn to work and address serious issues ranging from education, improving healthcare. agriculture, economy, road infrastructure, etc. Staying away from these issues becuase it's politics only makes the situation worse. What is politics all about? Is it not about equitable distribution of resources? I think we should be encouraging ourselves to be more pragmatic problem slovers rather discouraging people who are simply trying their best with little or no resources. The critics may agree that a few people who have sacrificed so much of their personal time amidist other priorities to develop WNF are making some achievements albeit slowly. Negativity and Bikering is part of human behavior. Negativity only holds us down from achieving group objectives for the benefit of our entire population. I am sure many of us have seen examples of people who are so negative that the best thing they do is to sit around and critisize without any achievements. Therefore, let's promote more TEAM WORK, COHESIVESNESS, VOLUNTEER LEADERSHIP and Skills a few hours a week or a month or year. Do what you can do best. Little by little makes a bundle. JJavudria On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:59 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Electricity Poles (Rogers Anguzu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:55:30 +0300 > From: "Rogers Anguzu" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > To: "'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile'" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear All, > > > > I think, we all need to appreciate this foundation has no full time > employees who do the day to day running of the affairs except volunteers > who > have expertise in only certain areas and of course not everything. > > > > Westnile Foundation is a collection of hundreds of sons, daughters and > friends of westnile with a diverse range of professional expertise. If > anyone feels they have something to offer, then they can speak up and drum > up support and lead the team in that direction of course with the blessing > and consent of the management of the foundation. > > For example in the recent past; > > > > · We have had people with interest and expertise in marketing and > event organising who have started the West Nile Night which has become the > envy of many communities in Kampala – little do they know we are actually > quarrelling. > > · We have also had people with expertise and interest in Health > Care > issues and have started the Science Café at Naalya Joint. > > · There has also been the tree planting group > > · Then there is the legal experts that have taken interest in the > BAT case in Arua > > > > So my humble view would be if anyone has anything constructive to offer, > then they write up their proposal and we debate it here on the forum. Some > people might not take it but others will, and we will then see another > project like westnight , science café and others. We should not shoot down > other people’s projects, if we are not interested in that line of > activities, just start up another of your interest, you will be amazed at > how many people think alike and soon we will have westnile bustling with > activities that unite us to develop our land. Let’s not assume some people > here are paid to think up projects for us and the rest of us have to follow > and only complain when something goes wrong. We each have a responsibility > to think of something that we can do for WEST NILE! > > > > I shall stress again, this is a forum of individuals of varied interests, > professional and social backgrounds, religious and political affiliations, > dialects, skin colour, etc. > > The common denominator on this forum is West NILE – Here we are either sons > or daughters or friends of West NILE. All we need is respect for each other > and our diverse views and we will go a long way in developing our place. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rogers > > > > From: Robert Ejiku [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 20 September 2010 12:34 > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > > > Dear All, > > The level of insensitivity by some of the members on this net is becoming > very irritating. I have read two points of view on this net that have > stopped short of celebrating the deaths of the region's young lads during > the last westnile night. > > Death as it were will get us anywhere whether you associate with others or > not. But if anyone disputes this fact I happy for that death proof family. > We ordinary mortals never celebrate even the death of ardent enemies if > any. > But this net has some immortals that think our community's pain should be > used to further alienate ourselves rather than unite us. > > July 11th was not westnile night but we lost our very own. The Gaaga > accident in Nakasongola was not Westnile night but we lost our very own. So > can our immortals on this net stand up and be counted. > > Our current arrangements to have a memorial service must go ahead and > infact > rather than have people pay to enter the ngiht club, I would think we must > register at a particular desk in the club and sign against for better > accountability. While I trust that Pa Lui mgt can handle gate collections > effectively, its also good for the Foundation mgt to get names of > contributors to the cause. I further suggest that those who normally find > it > difficult or wont be able to make it to the next night and yet wish to > contribute can do so through our treasurer or some other person selected > for > this purpose. > > Can we also have the critics take an active part within this community and > guide foundation mgt on some of their "great achievements" that we can > emulate and they had better be genuine and measurable not personal > achievements of huge mansions while your neighbours go hungry. > > > I normally would not love to engage in acrimonious discussions but time and > again we see insensitive contributions and I think if silence means > appreciation of those points of view, we better speak up. > > > > Ejiku > > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ismail, > > > > Much as everyone on this net is entitled to their opinion, I would think > that, when one feels something does not work for him or her, they should > not only stop at pointing out issues but rather go ahead to suggest > solutions or take lead in championing projects or issues at hand. > > > > No one wished sad news or death for our own brothers and let’s get focused > and see how else we can have members converge/meet to discuss issues > pertinent to westnile other than the net based debates and blaming efforts > in place to bring people together. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Afema > > > > From: banduga ismail [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > > > Christine, > > > > You are absolutely right. We are only VERY VERY GOOD in organizing social > gatherings. I don't know what our westnile community gets out of these > westnile nights if its not the sad news od death of our own. > > > > It is high time this foundation moved from net based debate to actualities > at home. And engaging our politicians now as you articulate is one of the > ways. Hon. D'Ujanga was and is still the minister of state for energy if I > remember well. How much engagement have we had with him in respect to power > in Westnile? > > Those of us who debate these issues on net in most cases are either able to > meet the obnoxious costs or can afford alternative means. We are not doing > much for the ordinary person. Lets do more. > > > > Ismail > > ---------------------------- > > _____ > > From: christine munduru <[email protected]> > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Sent: Fri, 17 September, 2010 19:53:43 > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Dear all, > > I think this has come timely. It is time for putting our agenda to those > running after our votes. Voters need to have an agenda for the politicians > who are now hungry for votes. So what is our agenda as Westnile forum in > this political season. These politicians must be put to task to debate > issues that affect voters, not just come to tell us the usual lies and we > give our votes! People must be told what government owes them and they > demand for it through their leaders and this is the right time. Development > starts by having good leaders and if we dont have the right leaders this > election period then we should forget about the development agenda that we > are pushing. I remember when the issue of returning money came up, how > everybody had somebody to blame. This is the time for weeding those in > elective posts who are non-performers. And we need to task them with > development issues to prove their worth. > > > > Many times we allow certain things to happen as if they are normal, buying > poles individually means formalizing this rotten system, is this what we > want to do? why dont we expose this and the responsible people come to > explain. Now if you buy substandard items like George has rightly explained > and your whole family is burnt in the house due to poor connection or > substandard connection items, whom shall we blame. What about those who are > unable to buy the poles but can afford to build their house and pay > electricity bill. > > We have indentified a problem, I thought we could use a collective effort > to > put it to order instead of resorting to individual solutions. If Wenreco is > to buy the poles, let them do so and if the issue is costs let us advocate > collectively for reduction so that many people can be able to buy. > Resorting > to buy it individually from private firms or directly is not a long term > solution according to me. > > > > We are not using the strength we have as westnile community to solve such > issues. We are very good at organizing social gatherings but with such > issues, it is a problem i dont know why but it is really very unfortunate. > > > > Christine > > > > _____ > > From: George Afi Obitre-Gama <[email protected]> > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:37:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > All, > > > > I think this is quite misleading. Yes, you can individually acquire the > poles and run the wires but at what cost? The poles to be acquired must be > of a certain minimum standard with the correct specifications i.e they must > be well treated using both copper sulphate immersion and creosote > treatment. > I know only one treatment plant in Kampala. Secondly, the wires(read > cables) > must be of a certain minimum standard too - i.e the type of material, > diameter etc. All these must be got from Kampala and are quite costly - may > be importation from India may be cheaper! Transportation logistics of these > items to West Nile is also another expensive affair. All in all, its a > costly affair! Thats why we have to ask the government to come in by way of > provision of subsidies etc. Otherwise, if you are Mike Ezra, its possible. > > > > _____ > > From: banduga ismail <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 8:40:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Dear All, > > > > I have just talked to a staff (one of the team leaders) of Wenreco in Arua > about this. According to him, if one obtains poles privately, then you will > need to engage a private individual or firm to fix the poles and run the > line (wires). However, this private firm or individual needs to do this > with > the full knowledge of Wenreco i.e. fill in some forms at Wenreco offices. > Wenreco will then come to connect your premises to the power line at a cost > of 246,400 UGX. This cost is basically the cost of the meter box. > > > > He also says there is the power extension plan that they are currently > working on to extent power to many areas in and around Arua. In this plan, > Wenreco will run the main lines and individuals will then meet the cost of > connecting the premises to the main lines. This will still require > individuals to pay for poles depending on how far or near your premises is > from the main line. > > > > As Ejiku asked, yes it is a practice Wenreco reluctantly seems to allow. > > > > Ismail > > -------------------------------------------- > > > _____ > > r From: Patrick Anguti <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 15 September, 2010 19:03:56 > Subject: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Dear all, > > > > As u r all aware, the price Wenreco charges for poles is extremely high as > compared to the rate at which the poles are sold. > > Aware of this, am suggesting we come as a group, purchase the poles, > transport them to Arua and then we get services from Wenreco for installing > them. > > > > The current market price for distribution poles is 150$. If somebody in > Arua > can get us the installation cost the better. > > -- > > Patrick Anguti > > Forest Officer > > Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited > > P O Box 7390, kampala > > Tel: +256-312-330300 > > Fax: +256-414-255600 > > Mob: +256-772-929633 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see > http://www.mtn.co.ug/email/Email-disclaimer.aspx > > > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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