By the way, do we have people on this forum who work for all or any of the district councils, health units, our elected reps?
It would be a great idea to conference in some/all of the people who work for Koboko district, Yumbe, Moyo, Adjumani, Nebbi, Nyadri, Zombo & Arua, etc + future districts, Mayors, LC's , RC's, DA's, MPs and all aspiring candidates. If you know any of these folks, please invite them to join the forum. Perhaps this is the best way for these people to hear our sorrows, voices, cries, tears, etc. I think these great ideas are like food on a big plate where everyone gets his/her share directly. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cooperation vs competition: what actually works? (oguzu lee) > 2. Re: Cooperation vs competition: what actually works? > (Ezama Ruffino) > 3. Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108 (JohnAJackson) > 4. Re: (WestNileNet) The way Forward (jadribo victor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 04:33:11 -0700 (PDT) > From: oguzu lee <[email protected]> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Cooperation vs competition: what actually > works? > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Fr. Ruffino, > Please note these action points for suggested vote education program: > 1. We need to set up a committee of imminent and neutral people who may > not > easily be compromised and are willing to stand for the truth. > 2. Develop communication plan (who are we talking to, what do say to them, > when > and how to we say it) > 3. Develop content agreeable to all stakeholders. We can set up wiki to > collaborate in development of this. > 4. Establish baseline against which we shall measure results/change due to > our > intervention. > 5. Fundraise for implementation of the project > > Having stated the above, i felt i should addressed the captioned item by > first > impressing onto new members some earlier counsel we received from Fr. > Ruffino > that still fascinates me to date: that by only concentrating on a speakers > bent > mouth, one could miss-out words of wisdom from that same mouth. Recent wave > of > attempts to portray various posts on this forum as outright denial of > partnership/ strategic alliance is probably what has refreshed my memory of > the > Fr. posted. While the paradox of development has led all of us in walks of > life > to search of a solution, cooperation vs competition have remained among the > controversial alternatives that call for further debate that's why I'm > adding my > voice to that of others in arriving at what actually works for us. > > > Whereas proponents of partnership have made it look like the 'world' is > against > cooperation, nobody is actually against partnerships.What others are only > trying to draw attention to is fact that lessons from failed alliances > should > not be forgotten. To those nervous about partnerships should take note > that > strategic alliances are as good as their intentions and the contents. > Perhaps > it's the insistence on fair content that has made us look 'untrusted' as in > the > eyes of others as someone depicted. We should ignore those stereotypes and > take > in ourselves because trust is neither induced nor coerced; its earned and > build > on mutual respect overtime. Why would one be dragged into partnership in a > lagoon simply because the houseflies have succeeded in it? I'm worried, in > trying to save a few trees, we could lose the entire forest. We need to > differentiate a short-term connivance of individuals make a living from > genuine > strategic alliances. > > > As we seek answers to the paradox of development in West Nile, i still want > to > ask this question: is cooperation more strategic for West Nile to pursue > than > competition? From a consumer point of view, competition has so far proven > more > useful in reducing monopoly thus opening room for enhancements. For example > choosing from alternatives has significantly increased bargaining power of > consumers in West Nile that someone can ably conclude the Aua road work, > Nyagak > Power and Vura-Koboko road projects were secured as result. Engineers on > this > forum can give us a better perspective of this from the point of view of > pressure---how it helps in movement of gasses and liquids. > > Cheers! > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101022/122313c4/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:57:40 -0400 > From: Ezama Ruffino <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Cooperation vs competition: what actually > works? > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear WestNilers > > What Lee quotes from me goes like this: "*A man with a bent mouth speaks > straight, if you look at the mouth you miss the point*" > > I had earlier on mentioned we close on this topic by Sunday. But having > listened to some suggestions I would like to inform you that we extend it > by > one week. We now envisage the *WAY FORWARD*. Lets be practical, specific > and > see how WNF could implement these suggestions. > The moderator of the way forward will be Victor Jadribo. > God bless > > r > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101022/37c86553/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:08:38 -0500 > From: JohnAJackson <[email protected]> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]<aanlktik_y2bhvanl%[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You got it right. West Nile net is a forum of professionals scattered all > over the surface of the globe. We share views, ideas. we have no political > affiliatitions. some people on the forum have never voted or will never > vote > in Uganda in the near future. Anyone is free to join any political > organization in Uganda and excercise their civic right. > The views expressed by people communicating on this forum is to promote > development, to encourage our elected representatives to work as a team > and > be accountable to the voters. If can harness the ideas pouring from people > all over the globe, we can change the misery we see in the villages. > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Quality of discussions on the forum (francis azabo) > > 2. Career Opportunity ([email protected]) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) > > From: francis azabo <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Quality of discussions on the forum > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Christine, you suggestions are absolutely wonderful let alone great.. I > > pray > > that members on the forum take your views seriously and pass it over to > > members > > not on WNnet. > > > > We all should play a roles in educating our people on whats best for > > developing > > our region other than petty fights for recognition etc etc. > > > > God bless > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Christine Munduru <[email protected]> > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:14:42 > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Quality of discussions on the forum > > > > > > Dear all, > > I am happy of the improved quality of discussions on this forum but we > can > > still > > do better. I would like us NOT to start partsan divisions on this forum. > > This > > brings division. The main issue right now is that we have people who are > > aspiring from all party angles for electoral posts and this is a > > constitutional > > right. Our duty here is to screen and come up with the best candidates > > irrespective of which party they belong to. We need people who are > > sensitive to > > the development of our region and the same time those who can influence > > development. The idea of bringing movement or opposition for our purpose > > here to > > me should not be encouraged. people will start attacking on those basis > > which > > will kill our well intentioned discussions. "One man's meat is another > one > > poison". Everybody has a right to belong to any party so this should not > be > > a > > point of our discussion. For example the deputy speaker, Kadaga comes > from > > a > > region where NRM has been voted 100% time a memorial and Kadaga has been > > the > > movement MP since then, how come her people are rotting alive with > Jiggers, > > where was she all this time, why has it become a problem now when many > have > > died. How do you explain such occurrences! We cannot for example quote > any > > developed region in westnile because the MPs have been in this party or > > that. > > Westnile has general development problems. Our interest is to get the > best > > candidates so the candidates need to respond to our issues and concerns > in > > order > > for us to do assessment. If you personally know the candidates well, give > > chance > > for those of us who dont know them to discuss with them. If you say for > > example > > somebody's manifesto is best, outline what is best for us, dont use > > sweeping > > statements,lumping everything as good or bad, explain why.I will choose a > > candidate after I am thoroughly convinced not based on party belongings. > > These > > are my personal suggestions on how we can impove and have healthy > > discussions > > here. > > > > Thanks > > > > Christine > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101021/40233bf7/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:14:48 +0300 > > From: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Career Opportunity > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part > > -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: Sales Trainer - advert[1].pdf > > Type: application/pdf > > Size: 157094 bytes > > Desc: Sales Trainer - advert[1].pdf > > Url : > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101022/e97a688f/SalesTrainer-advert1.pdf > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > > > End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108 > > ******************************************** > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101022/7274756a/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:41:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: jadribo victor <[email protected]> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: (WestNileNet) The way Forward > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear Brothers, Sisters and Well-wishers of West Nile, It has been quite > long and > exhaustive discussion about the Slumbers of Political Leadership that has > contributed a great deal to the current status-quo in West Nile. Yes, every > revolution always starts with talks (expression of emotions, affections, > lamentations, blames, excuses etc) and then action. Since we have done the > discussion bit of it on the net, it is time to advance ways in which we can > decent and reach the masses of West Nile for whose course this foundation > solely > exists. I believe all we need now is a united front, dedicated struggle and > confidence building in reaching the grassroots. Ndugu Aliga did mention > that > it’s time we be short on rhetoric and long in action. > What strategies shall we employ to influence the trend of events and have > the > masses on board? > Bravo Fr. Rufino for the Job well-done and the entire family of WNF for the > wonderful discussion. I hope it will keep rolling until healthy fruits are > harvested. > Over to you > > > > > ________________________________ > From: JohnAJackson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 4:08:38 PM > Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108 > > > You got it right. West Nile net is a forum of professionals scattered all > over > the surface of the globe. We share views, ideas. we have no political > affiliatitions. some people on the forum have never voted or will never > vote in > Uganda in the near future. Anyone is free to join any political > organization in > Uganda and excercise their civic right. > The views expressed by people communicating on this forum is to promote > development, to encourage our elected representatives to work as a team > and be > accountable to the voters. If can harness the ideas pouring from people all > over > the globe, we can change the misery we see in the villages. > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Quality of discussions on the forum (francis azabo) > > 2. Career Opportunity ([email protected]) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) > >From: francis azabo <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Quality of discussions on the forum > >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Hello everyone, > > > >Christine, you suggestions are absolutely wonderful let alone great.. I > pray > >that members on the forum take your views seriously and pass it over to > members > >not on WNnet. > > > >We all should play a roles in educating our people on whats best for > developing > >our region other than petty fights for recognition etc etc. > > > >God bless > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Christine Munduru <[email protected]> > >To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:14:42 > >Subject: [WestNileNet] Quality of discussions on the forum > > > > > >Dear all, > >I am happy of the improved quality of discussions on this forum but we can > still > >do better. I would like us NOT to start partsan divisions on this forum. > This > >brings division. The main issue right now is that we have people who are > >aspiring from all party angles for electoral posts and this is a > constitutional > >right. Our duty here is to screen and come up with the best candidates > >irrespective of which party they belong to. We need people who are > sensitive to > >the development of our region and the same time those who can influence > >development. The idea of bringing movement or opposition for our purpose > here > to > >me should not be encouraged. people will start attacking on those basis > which > >will kill our well intentioned discussions. "One man's meat is another one > >poison". Everybody has a right to belong to any party so this should not > be a > >point of our discussion. For example the deputy speaker, Kadaga comes from > a > >region where NRM has been voted 100% time a memorial and Kadaga has been > the > >movement MP since then, how come her people are rotting alive with > Jiggers, > >where was she all this time, why has it become a problem now when many > have > >died. How do you explain such occurrences! We cannot for example quote > any > >developed region in westnile because the MPs have been in this party or > that. > >Westnile has general development problems. Our interest is to get the best > >candidates so the candidates need to respond to our issues and concerns in > order > >for us to do assessment. If you personally know the candidates well, give > chance > >for those of us who dont know them to discuss with them. If you say for > example > >somebody's manifesto is best, outline what is best for us, dont use > sweeping > >statements,lumping everything as good or bad, explain why.I will choose a > >candidate after I am thoroughly convinced not based on party belongings. > These > >are my personal suggestions on how we can impove and have healthy > discussions > >here. > > > >Thanks > > > >Christine > > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- > >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >URL: > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101021/40233bf7/attachment-0001.html > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 2 > >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:14:48 +0300 > >From: <[email protected]> > >Subject: [WestNileNet] Career Opportunity > >To: <[email protected]> > >Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part > >-------------- > >A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > >Name: Sales Trainer - advert[1].pdf > >Type: application/pdf > >Size: 157094 bytes > >Desc: Sales Trainer - advert[1].pdf > >Url : > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101022/e97a688f/SalesTrainer-advert1.pdf > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >WestNileNet mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > > >End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 108 > >******************************************** > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20101022/3479ccc0/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 26, Issue 109 > ******************************************** >
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