Dear Brothers and Sisters,

I wonder if we have enough information about the accidents to begin to talk 
about writing letters. To whom are we going to address such letters? Is two 
days enough to gather enough information about what really caused the 
accidents. I know the loss of our loved ones can be very traumatizing and 
emotional but I think we should give enough time for the ground work. I am sure 
the bus owners are aware of some of these issues of compensation. I think some 
of the owners of the Bus companies are people who can be approached to discuss 
some of these issues by some of our brothers who are in contact with them 
without being emotional about writing letters . Moreover some of these bus 
companies have been helpful to our community at our time of need on various 
occassions. I would suggest that the idea of writing a letter be stayed until 
we have enough information about what really caused the accident. 
If indeed the smoke which was claimed to have caused the accident is 
established, the responsibility of the accident does not only rely the bus 
companies alone but also the people who started the fire that caused the smoke 
and the people who manage the park. Do we know who set the fire that caused the 
smoke in the park? I think there are to many entities involved in these 
accidents as such it would be pre-mature to think of writing letters because we 
need to understand and isolate the cause of the accidents so that the letters 
are addressed to the responsible entities. This is my individual personal view, 
but if the majority of the people on this forum believe the best thing is to 
begin writing letters then I will go with the majority view, but otherwise I 
think it is too early to think of writing letters which I am wondering to who 
as the main cause of the accident is not established and there are many players 
in my view in the cause of the accident.

Over to you brothers and sisters.

Vasco Oguzua.

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> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:22:21 +0100 (BST)
> From: Carol Azungi <[email protected]>
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Accidents
> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
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> While we ponder the right preventive, punitive and restitutive measures-lets 
> have a stern letter, opinion, etc in the New Vision or Monitor expressing our 
> collective concern and a message that enough is enough. As Sam points out, 
> the timing is right as the festive season and elections are around the 
> corner. Could be a start!
> Kind regards
> Carol
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 25/10/10, Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]>
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: The two Bus Accidents
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 18:21
> 
> 
> 
> It is sad to hear that we have been robbed of our dear relatives again in two 
> bus accidents. May the souls of the deceased rest in a eternal peace and may 
> those in hospitals know that the Lord Amighty is always with them. I hope the 
> full true story of the accident will be provided when it becomes available. I 
> have observed that possible errors of the bus drivers have only been 
> mentioned in some of the comments. What about the story of other drivers 
> involved (e.g. tanker for the KK bus accident). I hope very competent Traffic 
> Police and Ministry of Transport investigators seriously investigate these 
> accidents to provide reasonable solutions to avoid or reduce such accidents. 
> Accidents on the Ugandan Roadways just seem to be too much too frequent in my 
> view. I am left to wondedr what kind of smoke in an open environment like 
> Porungo area where the KK Bus accident occurred would reduce visibility to 
> the extend that both drivers for the  two
>  moving vehicles were not being able to recognize one another !!!
>  
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> Could Tabu Butagira, Jimmy Adriko and Rogers Anguzu see how this suggestion
> of Carol can be worked on?
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> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:23:28 -0400
> From: Charles Male <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Accidents
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> Padre,
> 
> I think the letter to the editor should go under the auspices of WNF (i.e.
> signed by Caleb or designate)
> charles
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Ezama Ruffino <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > Could Tabu Butagira, Jimmy Adriko and Rogers Anguzu see how this suggestion
> > of Carol can be worked on?
> >
> > Ruffino
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> From: Lina Ogwal <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Bus Accidents
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> Dear Patrick,
> 
> I was just itching to ask this same question; do the families who lose their 
> beloveds, not only in these last accidents but also the past accidents, 
> recieve 
> some kind of compesation/sympathetic gesture from the bus companies? 
> Unfortunately true, the money does not reverse the situation, but it will 
> reduce 
> some of the expenses that families incur after such a tragidy.
> 
> Needless to reiterate, these deaths are uncalled for.
> 
> I think at this point the bus owners should realize that the importance 
> of educating their staff about safety has become imperative and urgent. As 
> already alluded by many, this is perfect time to step up a notch in asking 
> the 
> bus owners in conjuction with ministry of transportation and public safety to 
> put in place and enforce preventive measures. This is not about the passenges 
> only but also their (drives and conductors) lives too.  I also agree with 
> Carol 
> that this forum or West Nilers in general should voice these concerns in the 
> news paper(s).
> 
> I hope this is an eye opener to the driving public.
> 
> May the Lord grant them eternal peace.
> 
> 
> Lina
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Patrick Okuni <[email protected]>
> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 11:53:58 AM
> Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: Bus Accidents
> 
> 
> Dear Colleagues
> 
> It is so sad to learn about these tragic bus accidents yet again. Sincere 
> condolences to the bereaved families.
> 
> I am just woneriing whether these bus companies plying the WN routes have 
> comprehensive insurance cover to provide some sort of compensation for the 
> dead 
> and to assist the injurred in case of such accidents. While it does not 
> change 
> the real situation, reasonable compensation would go a lot in assisting those 
> most affected. Could someone close to KKT and Gaagaa please help us with an 
> update.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Patrick
> 
> On 25 October 2010 11:08, Mawa Leone <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Oh, what a sad moment again. Too bad, but let's keep praying meanwhile
> >the management of these bus companies have to be cautioned otherwise
> >if the root cause of these accidents is not treated we shall keep
> >perishing like that. May the souls of the deceased rest in eternal
> >peace.
> >
> >
> >On 10/25/10, alfred tulu <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Yet another tragedy! May all their souls rest in peace.
> >>
> >> Tulu
> >> --- On Mon, 25/10/10, Aluma Adam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Aluma Adam <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] KKT Accident
> >> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 7:29
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is tragic and shocking too. Death on our roads should not be
> >> acceptable! Reckless driving and poor safety measures should not be part of
> >> our traffic behavior.Someone must be held to account for such serious human
> >> error.
> >>
> >> It is very sad and heartbreaking to the bereaved families to lose lives of
> >> kins in such accidents. May the souls of the deceased persons rest in
> >> peace.
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 10/24/10, oguzu lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: oguzu lee <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] KKT Accident
> >> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 2:36 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We couldn't afford another calamity of this magnitude! May the lives of our
> >> perished brothers and sisters dwell in Eternal Peace. Visit:
> >> http://newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/736036  for additional information.
> >>
> >> Denis Lee Oguzu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Stephen Asuma <[email protected]>
> >> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 4:47:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] KKT Accident
> >>
> >>
> >> My sincere condolences to the families, friends and in laws of all  the
> >> deceased
> >>
> >>  Stephen Asuma
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Jimmy Awuzu Angubo <[email protected]>
> >> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 7:42:21 PM
> >> Subject: [WestNileNet] KKT Accident
> >>
> >> Hi Friends,
> >> There has been a nasty accident involving a Koboko bound KK Traveller Bus
> >> and so far 13 people have been confirmed dead.Details may be posted 
> >> tomorrow
> >> as the Managers are still for a crisis meeting.May we pray for their souls
> >> and for the injured,thanx.
> >>
> >> Jimmy
> >>
> >>
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