Dear all
 
Please if there experts in french language rescue us in interpreting some of 
the mails sent in that language, it may be an important mail.
 
One of the core objectives of the forum is to inform the public.
 
Mr. Abati Mickson Could help.
 
Thanks
 
Alioni Emmanuel Drajole

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My deepest condelences

Ms Milburga ATCERO 
Lecturer Makerere University Business SchoolPr?sidente Association des 
professeurs de fran?ais en OugandaPr?sidente Conseil d'Administration Alliance 
Fran?aise de KampalaSecr?taire G?n?ral association des professeurs de fran?ais 
d'Afrique et d'Oc?an IndienPhD?/Doctorante? ? la Sorbonne Paris III
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From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Loss of dear ones
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 7:00 AM

condolences

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Subject: [WestNileNet] Loss of dear ones
To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 10:43 AM


Dear members,

I would like to join the rest in saying condolensces to all who have lost their 
dear ones in the past days. It is indeed a trying moment for all of us. On yet 
another sad note, as we reflect, the Mvara S.S fraternity has been robbed of 
MR. ANGUPALE CHARLES who has been the CAREERS MASTER and a GEOGRAPHY TEACHER in 
Mvara S.S. He died yesterday at Arua Hospital and
will be buried at his ancestral home near OJIPAKU primary school tomorrow 
Friday 14/01/2011.



All Mvara S.S old students are particularly informed. Those who can join the 
family and friends in Arua are encouraged to do so.

Thanks

Sam Ejibua
for MVARA OLD STUDENTS ASSOCIATION? 





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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:14:32 -0500
From: Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]>
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] {Disarmed} Re: Ten reason why Asian
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Dear Aggrey Adrale,

Reading from your post, it is evident that you did not comprehend the
premise or point argument in the article John posted and my response to that
article. You have confused HARD WORK with AMBITION, which you have so much
expressed in your article. These two words are not synonymous and they do
not mean the same. So there is not much for me to argue with you on this
issue because we are not discussing the same issue in my  view.
You have further gone to talk about listing best brains originating from our
locale which in my view was not the topic of discussion in those articles. I
would request that you go back and re-read John's article so that you have a
better understanding what was being presented and why i responded the way I
did. There is not doubt we have brilliant brains in our community (local,
National, Continent). I would like to remind you that the best examples of
hard were amongst our community have been presented many times in some of
the articles I believe the Monitor or New vision carried our sometime back
if you have been following reading some of the articles in the news.
When we want to compare HARD WORK amongst developed and least developed
countries we may need to establish some common grounds or similarities in
the criteria upon which such comparisons are based for the comparison to be
meaningful and for people to learn from if the purpose of the comparison is
to be educative at all.I have no doubt in my mind that we can excel in any
competetion with the developed world if the grounds of out completion are
the same for the competetors.
Since you missed the gist of the argument in the article, I am not surprised
that you missed the point of my response and have gone to talk about
ambition which is not the point of discussion in those articles.
I hope you remember one of our brothers who represented Uganda in the
Internationa Debating Competetion which occurred somewhere in Europe. All he
needed was to be provided an opportunity to participate and he indeed did
represented us so well. Without that opportunity what HARD Work  alone would
not have taken him that far. The point in my response was the importance of
creating a condusive environment in which where people can try their Luck
through hard work,
I am sure you may have childreon or sisters or brothers or relatives who are
studying in schools Kampala or even in schools like Mvara, Ombaci., Muni but
not in some of thsoe USE schools in the village. You definitely know why you
would prefer or have your relatives in those schools other than those other
poor schools with very little facilities and infrasctructure.
You may want to re-examine your concept of ambition in the context of the
premise of the original article.

Vasco

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 2:41 AM, aggrey adrale <[email protected]>wrote:

>   Dear Vasco,
>
> Thank you for your opinion on the article posted by John. Perhaps I would
> say that you just gave it a sloppy treat and couldn't pick from some of the
> examples of the best brains we have in the world originating from
> Africa, Uganda and West Nile in particular, though few despite the poor
> socio-economic, built environment and academic backgrounds they started
> from. I would have mentioned their names but permit me not to for the
> purpose of not diluting this debate and giving the opportunity to you and
> others who may have wished to think like you to positively look at the
> merits and demerits of what John shared with the forum.
>
> China, Singapore and other countries like them set themselves high
> ambitions from the potentials they knew they had, to get to the levels which
> you do not want us to think about. We also do have our potentials, only that
> many times we do not sit down to evaluate and re-evaluate our selves other
> than marvelling at other peoples achievements - in simple terms, we give
> up!. Those achievements are not out of nothing but carefully orchestrated
> plans and reviews coupled with hard work. Reading from the histories (let
> alone what is commonly published) of the highly developed countries
> including China and Singapore, they didn't have to start from the macro or
> policy levels. Rather they held their micro-ambitions which, after
> relatively developing, they used to set policies and influence decisions.
>
> It is not a bad idea setting high ambitions  and such were the ambitions of
> countries such as China, Singapore and others now considerably developed. So
> it goes that at personal, family and other levels we can set and maintain
> such high ambitions and where we feel challenged we can still have the moral
> obligation of encouraging others such as our children, dependent siblings
> and all others that we care for. Perhaps our weaknesses are at policy level
> but at the micro level we have a duty to try and compete with the worlds
> best.
>
> Saying that and I quote from your contribution, "our issues should be how
> we can foster an understanding of building or improving the institutions
> that are supposed to help poor people improve their lives and advocacy of
> empowering our people to use the available resources improve their
> situation". I would like to turn your statement in the reverse order that we
> first use the available resources to improve our situation and emerge as an
> empowered society to advocate for further improvement of our lives; build
> and improve institutions that help to protect our improved lives.
>
> Please when you review your contribution to what John posted, encourage us
> to try and fail but not fail to try to rate our selves against the world's
> best.
>
> Aggrey Adrale
>
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>
>
> From: Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Ten reason why Asian students excel in academics
> To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 18:45
>
>  John,
>
>  I do not think there is really anything much to infer from this reading,
> because the comparisons of social , economic, educational infrastructure in
> the places in these articles can not be compared with what we have in Uganda
> or West Nile for that matter. While indeed it is important to talk about
> encouraging students and parents to work hard, there are certain basic
> necessities that really have to be in place. We may think that China is a
> third world, but I think China is far developed than a country like Uganda
> with almost no basic necessities of economic and social amenities....Is
> Uganda not getting aid from China for some of its development projects!!!.
> I think the parents and students in Uganda or West Nile can not easily
> relate to this article there are no common easily identifiable attributes
> they have with people living in these countries listed. The opportunities
> and infrastructure for anyone poor person to get rich in America are not the
> same as the opportunities and infrastructure for poor people in Uganda or
> West Nile. The poorest person in America could considered a middle class in
> Uganda because anyone making less than $20, 000.00 a year in the USA is
> considered poor.... and yet in Uganda that would be a lot of money.The
> poorest public schools in  the US could be considered some of the best
> schools in Uganda just in terms of the infrastructure alone.  I do not know
> how hard work in US and hard work in Uganda or West Nile could be compared,
> especially due to the difference in socio-economic amenities available to
> the people. It would make sense to compare  how a poor person in Sudan, or
> DRC or Tanzania or Kenya was able to do better than a poor man in Uganda.
> Even then the environments these countries for the poor people where they
> would be operating would be different, even though they are neighbouring
> countries. Our issues should be how we can foster an understanding of
> building or improving the institutions that are supposed to help poor people
> improve their lives and advocacy of empowering our people to use the
> available resources improve their situation.
>
> Vasco
>
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM, JohnAJackson <*MailScanner has detected
> a possible fraud attempt from "uk.mc297.mail.yahoo.com" claiming to 
> be*[email protected]<http://uk.mc297.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
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> Dear friends of West Nile Forum ,
>  I thought you might like to read this info and tune the mind of your
> brothers, sisters, sons or duaghters
>
> Top 10 Ways To Play
> China's Obsession With
> Academic Excellence
> by Tony Sagami
> Dear John,
>
> I was less than two years old when my parents divorced in 1957
> for us in America. Why?
> My mother knew that a half-Japanese, half-American child had limited
> opportunities in Japan. It wasn't like it is today; the wounds from World
> War II were too fresh. I would have never gone to a top university or landed
> a top job.
> Even though my mother barely spoke English and seldom had more than two
> nickels to rub together, she fiercely held to the idea of the American
> dream. "In America, anybody can get rich if they work hard," she told me.
> My mother ordered me to sit in the front row right in front of the
> teacher's desk. She gave me almost daily lectures on the importance of
> education, and punished me severely if I brought home anything less than an
> A. My mother was a big believer in corporal punishment and I got the
> spankings of my life for anything less than straight A's.
> For someone who started off as a homeless immigrant, my mother saw all her
> children grow up to achieve great professional success. I am sad to say that
> my mother died seven years ago from cancer, but I preach the same lessons
> about education to my children to this day.
> External Sponsorship
>
> Guess Who Tops Global Education Performance?
>
> Students from 65 countries, including the United States, recently took the
> Program for International Student Assessment, known as PISA, given by the
> Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).
> Guess who came in first in reading, math and science? Students in China's
> Shanghai Province. To view the OECD's PISA press release, click here.
> To jump directly to the PISA data table, click here.
> That is very impressive given that this is the first time China had taken
> part in the test.
>
> PISA tests are scored on a scale with 500 as the average. Two-thirds of
> students in participating countries score between 400 and 600.
> On the math test, the Chinese students beat everybody by a wide margin.
> Second-place Singapore, which has been seen as an educational superstar in
> recent years, scored 562. Germany was a distant third at 513.
> The United States scored 487, a score that was behind 30 other countries.
> On the reading test, China had the top score again at 556. South Korea came
> in second with 539 and the United States came in 17th with a 500, clustered
> around students from the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, and
> the United Kingdom.
> In science, China was first AGAIN with a 575. Finland came in second with a
> 554 and the United States came in 23rd with a 502.
> What is the secret to China's academic success? Simple; they work their
> butts off. Most Chinese students don't finish until 5 p.m. or 6 p.m., watch
> little television and play very few video games. Chinese students are
> prohibited from working before the age of 16, so they can concentrate on
> school. Plus, most students attend tutoring classes after school and on
> Saturdays.
> "Very rarely do children in other countries receive academic training as
> intensive as our children do. So if the test is on math and science, there's
> no doubt Chinese students will win the competition," said Sun Baohong of the
> Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences.
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