GOODMORNING VASCO OGUZUA.This is Patrick Tabani saying Hullo to you after a long spell of time.I am okay and there is no major problem.Your silence on issues concerning WESTNILE really made me lose faith in current debate .Please participate and put your views as you have done in the previous years.I literally derive satisfaction by reading your cmments and views.I wish you the best g
________________________________ From: Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 12:22:24 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 John, Indeed usually dinner is made by one person, be it the mother, or the father or the sister or the brother or the aunt to the nice. When it comes to eating the food already prepared, everyone is at the table be it invited or not, moreover with smiling faces and giggles around the table or on the "birisi"(the mat) or 'kodra"(the papyrus mat). When the food is well cooked with the acceptable amount of salt in the sauce, or the sauce is well fried or with the right amount of simsim or peanut butter in the sauce, everyone at the table eats with appetite and after eating they thank the cook for a decent meal and then go and praised the cook whenever some topic on food comes around in a discussion. However, if the food is not well prepared (watery and salty sauce or watery "Ugali"), people begin to withdraw from the table pretending to have had enough and giving excuses that they were not that hungry. Later on when discussion about food come around, they will talk about how bad the food was and wonder if the cook had ever cooked before and complain about the food. The same analogy of the cook can apply to leadership. One person may have started this noble idea which many people have joined and are still joining. Just like the cook is evaluated by the people who eat the food. Leaders will be evaluated according to what they have done and how well they have done the things they are supposed to do in their leadership role. The challenge for the leader is how he or she interprets and reacts to the the grumbles or criticisms of the people. Even if the leader believes or thinks that the grumbles or criticisms have no basis, it is incumbent upon the leader to explain what is happening and perhaps convince the people with the truth of the situation with humility. I think when leaders feel they are struggling to pull strings in every direction (as given in John's example) and things are not moving well, it is the responsibility of the leaders to accept that things are not holding and they need to let the people know and seek help. Leadership positions in any organization or activity is not void of criticism and blame or applause and appreciation. When leaders do good in the interest of the people they are leading, real and true praises are accorded to them, but the opposite also happens when leaders do not do things they are expected to do as leaders. Even when leaders can lead with passion, courage, enthusiasm, persistence, endurance and sacrifice, without humility and selflessness these other powerful characteristics may just equally go to waste. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:15 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> wrote: BIG JOKE > >Ladies and gentlemen, > >I would like to ask one question: HOW MANY COOKS USUALLY MAKE THE DINNER AT >HOME? ISN'T I'T USUALLY THE MOTHER ALONE OR FATHER ALONE? BUT HOW MANY >PEOPLE >SHOW UP AT THE DINNER TABLE WHEN THE FOOD IS READY? THE NUMBER OF CONSUMERS >CAN >BE INFINITE. > >Although there are over 400-500 members on this forum, most of them are like >consumers who are waiting for the food to be ready. When the food is not >cooked, >we will only know by the voices of people crying loud. But when you ask why >could you not come to help to prepare the food, they give all kinds of excuses. > >Is this not true about leadership? When a leader (s) are struggling to pull >the >strings in every direction, only a few people are willing to come and hold >some >of the strings. When the whole project (s) > fails, you find that everyone comes out screaming or yelling, etc. Where were >these people hiding all this time? > >The bible says "many are called to the kingdom of God but few will be chosen". >If you have chosen to be a leader, do your best. When you succeed, everyone >will >come to celebrate. If you fail, thousands of people will pour all their blame >on >you. > >Therefore, . > >JJAvudria > >On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Lessons: Volutarism & Positive Criticism (Christine Munduru) >> 2. Re: Forgotten Point (Caleb Alaka) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:34:48 +0300 >>From: Christine Munduru <[email protected]> >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Lessons: Volutarism & Positive Criticism >>Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >>My dear brother Okuti, I wish we had more people thinking like you in this >>forum, unfortunately we dont which is very sad because we just counted a >>number of professions on this forum then you wonder where the >>professionalism disappears. Our quarrell ends up being worse than our >>colleagues who never reached the classrooms under the tree deep in the >>villages but the next time you hear we are singing our professions, very >>embarrassing. Some times silence to such kind of people may be the best >>otherwise you risk reducing yourself to their level of quarrell. As elites >>we need to disagree to agree but not to quarrell but many westnilers have >>beaten my understanding. Thank you so much for the brilliant ideas. >> >>Christine >> >> >> >>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Okuti Boroa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I wrote a mail that caused quite a discussion and I thought after reading >>> through all the submissions that it would be wise for me to add another >>> dimension. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have been involved and still involved in various leadership positions, >>> (some voluntary and not paid) I continue to struggle for my daily bread >>> JSome >>>of the lessons are indeed very big and serious and I would like to >>> share with all the leaders in one way or another that when you start a cause >>> or get involved in one that involves the society there is an unwritten law >>> of accountability (not the money we collect, mine is in reference to the >>> mission) to the society that you will have to observe. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have worked in community initiatives where I have earned zero income and >>> have ended up losing face on top of that because I did not meet their >>> expectations, yes all communities have expectations and again it is up to >>> you as a leader to see whether you can meet them or see how they can be >>> harmonized with your abilities or resources as a leadership or leadership >>> team and this may serve as a lesson to all of us ? what can we actually do, >>> maybe we are held up between the making of daily bread and the creation of >>> strategic solutions for our communities. >>> >>> >>> >>> So we end up lamenting because we are held hostage to a very difficult >>> situation. I once stopped voluntarism because here I was thinking about a >>> community when I had my own rent, food and utility bills un catered for ? in >>> fact a friend even asked me where my priorities were, he asked me whether I >>> could solve the problems of the world while I had my own biting very hard! >>> >>> >>> >>> This means you must be ready as a leader to be criticised, questioned and >>> shaken from time to time. It will be how you respond that will save or >>> destroy the day. Most of us who were involved in the start up of this forum >>> are at high level leadership and probably can understand this most so maybe >>> we should avoid reactive responses, but seek solutions together with those >>> that are raising the concerns (*Sometimes may be the best that they can do >>> is raise concerns or criticise positively - and may be that is a quality you >>> can harness to succeed as the driver of the ship*). >>> >>> >>> >>> The work of a leader is to create solutions all the time, and I would like >>> to believe all the comments are mostly professionally motivated and not >>> attacks on personalities. If I am wrong I am very sorry and will immediately >>> stop posting any comments in that regard to this forum. May be I am overly >>> optimistic and think that everyone understands me and that I understand >>> everyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am sure you have all been in board rooms where it seems like the end of >>> the world but people walk out with agreements and move on ? this is because >>> it is business and not personal. Anyway I will meet you all soon and those >>> who will ignore me, refuse to hug me or are cold towards me and my girl >>> friend and our son ? I will know that they have taken it personal. If I sit >>> with them at a table and they don?t buy me a beer like they usually do ? I >>> will know the answer ? let me wait. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do not know if there are any hidden agenda?s, politics, ideas or other >>> plans in this forum, if they have evolved then it is time for me to find >>> another forum. I chose to believe that a smoothly sailing forum is like a >>> marriage/relationship without quarrels and disagreements!! A BIG TIME BOMB >>> TICKING AWAY >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope it is a useful lesson ...... >>> >>> >>> >>> That is why for Terego I will campaign for Wadri and for Municipality I >>> will campaign for Aridru, it?s not personal ? lets avoid personalisation?s. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ?Website & e-Solutions, Networks, Marketing Communications" >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: http://asili4u.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> Tel +256 312 294857/1 and Mobile +256 772 725252 (Uganda) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WestNileNet mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>> >>> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> All Archives can be found at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>URL: >><http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20101201/171b6ed1/attachment-0001.html> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:36:40 -0800 (PST) >>From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Forgotten Point >>Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Apollo, >> >>Thanks for your rejoinder. Well I did not contribute much on the issue of >>laziness. I have never imagined that our people are lazy. I think it is >>unfair >>for us to write off our people as a lazy bunch of people without appreciating >>what our people have gone through. I do not think that we are the brightest >>or >>most intelligent generation. If any thing, we inherited this intelligence >>from >>those very people who did not succeed in life like us. Historically we have >>been >>disadvantaged. From not having a proper identity (First under the Belgians >>then >>under the British Protectorate ) to becoming a labour reserve, then the years >>of >>exile and eventual political and military marginalization. Our people have >>suffered historical, political and legal injustices; that's why some of them >>developed the negative attitude towards life. Life full of lack of >>opportunities, lack of career guidance, lack of self esteem and self belief >>will >>breed mairungi chewers and a >> generation of people who think in terms of hiding their head in the sand. >>People who take lira lira to avoid being sober to tackle life's challenges. >>The >>sense of being inferior is not only embedded in the rural West Niler but also >>amongst most of our young upcoming intellectuals. That's why we as a be-cone >>of? >>hope should do what Museveni did to liberate the hitherto despised Banyakole. >>Ours will not be through waging wars but through building the necessary >>capacity. through influencing policies, challenging things we believe are >>oppressive to our people and uniting ourselves and of course tackling >>poverty, >>illiteracy and collectively offering leadership to our people through our >>joint >>efforts. If we can challenge BAT in Courts of Law for exploiting our people, >>if >>we can stand up and spearhead education revival in West Nile and if we can >>intervene directly in anything affecting West Nile then there will be no lazy >>person in West Nile other wise to be >> a watchman or night guard, or to walk all over Kampala City selling brooms, >>papyrus mats, ground nuts and or to dig in peoples gardens for survival is >>not a >>mark of a lazy person. >> >>--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Onzoma Apollo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>From: Onzoma Apollo <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Forgotten Point >>To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]> >>Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 2:22 PM >> >>Caleb, >>? >>Thanks to you and the core team for all the contributions towards >>the?achievements so far realised by the foundation and?timely >>update/reminder. >>This, i believe will guide?and streamline some of our recommendations and >>comments on various discussions. At an appropriat time, we may need a >>thorough >>understanding of the details involved and get registered. I believe it would >>also be good to get the Consitutution re-circulated to members for >>information. >> >>? >>I also want to believe that?our region faces?alot of challenges and for one >>to >>conlude that most of our problems are?caused by laziness as the >>only?major?factor, then?we shall have missed alot on?the major issues >>contributing positively or negatively to our?macro-economic/development >>situation/problems in the region. I agree that alot of these are concerns of >>the >>region that need to be addressed systematically. >> >>? >>I note that the contributions through Palui, Science cafe and up coming get >>together are very critical for our progress and encouraging no matter how >>many >>people have so far been?reached by such arrangements. The key coordinators of >>these arrangements are highly commended for the progress so far made. Every >>initial begining is important and i note that how such benefits can be spread >>further are part of what will form the strategies of the foundation. >> >> >>Regards >> >>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>Members, the certificate of incorporation was granted as a result of the >>registration of the memorandum and articles of association of West Nile >>Foundation as a company limited by guarantee. The Memorandum outlined the >>objectives of West Nile Foundation. It was posted on the net and widely >>discussed with various changes and a lot of input from Nile Care >>Incorporation. >>The Articles of Association which is the Constitution is the internal >>regulation >>of how WNF has to be run. It defines key issues including membership, >>elections, >>the secretariat and so many others. This document was also widely circulated >>and >>several amendments were made to it. Usually when people see legal documents, >>they do not take keen interest to go through them save for people like >>Avudria >>Jackson and Father Ruffino who at least always contribute to the documents. >>Any >>way the bottom line is we should start subscribing to WNF by way of paying >>our >>registration fee. We have already >> designed membership cards.? The more we run away from this the more we shall >>be >>acting the ostrich hiding our heads in the sand. We can appoint a care taker >>to >>oversee the process of registration and eventually carry out elections. But >>as I >>had indicated earlier. For the sake of civilization let it only be the >>registered members who should have voting rights as enshrined in the Articles >>of >>Association. >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>WestNileNet mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >> >> >>WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >>All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> >>The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>attachments if any). 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