Well, I am very happy that we have people who make it easier for us to know what it means to have a good governement. So, please, may I know what good governance is Mr. Tabani? Have you ever tried to evaluate the "achievements" of this government in terms of what you see, or yours is just based on what you hear? Have you ever gone to the village to research on how many people are taking the sugar which you claim was brought by Museveni? I wsih to bring to your attention that, the West Nile you have seen is the West Nile in the towns and trading centers who can afford half a kilogram of sugar in three weeks time on average. But I wish you also knew of the real West Nile which has the majority of its population in the villages. Talk about infrastructure, did you know that what the Museveni you are praising is just working on the plans set by Obote and Amin as far as West Nile is concerned? The roads you are boasting of were planned long time ago by the people you are labling as the worst people. I wish to bring to your attention that Amin, though not highly educated, had Uganda at heart as a COUNTRY but not as a region. Please, before you praise Museveni for working on the Karuma-Arua road, think of who planned it and how long it took for it to be in place. My brother, I wish to bring your attention to all the activities "Infractural developments" carried out by the Museveni administration. May I ask, have you seen anything durable constructed by this regime? Look at the Karuma-Arua road. For how many years was the road planned for and for how long has it lasted without pot holes? In a nutshell, Museveni's administration is charaterised by shoddy work. I dont know if you watched news yesterday, but three contruction companies working on roads were just asked to stop what they were doing by the residents who did not see any value in what they are doing, yet these were companies approved by ministries headed by the Museveni administration. How many women and children die everyday due to poor health fercilties. Look at the education standards of Ugandan institutions today and compare them with those during the times of Obote. All in all, you should not be blinded by what the budget showed, coz it won't be long when you see Ugandans crying for the same things that caused them to smile when the budget was being read. Lastly I woul like to bring to your attention one charateristic trait in you that you did not notice, "A DICTATOR". Try to look at the way you presented your ideas on what was shown by one of the members of this site and evaluate yourself. Remember, Uganda needs a leader who will make them see their country in the way they disserve, who will stop using the law to steal from the Ugandans, and a leader who will make the Ugandans take up their future and develop it for the comfort of their children and granchildren without any obstraction. We have not yet got such a leader. therefore, My people from West Nile, let us not give up on looking for this leader. We shall definately find HIM or HER. Kind regards to all of you.
--- On Fri, 6/10/11, Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> wrote: From: Vasco Oguzua <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 4:37 PM Patrick Tabani, I hope all is well with you and your family in Lesotho. I am doing fairly OK here just came back from Uganda and I was there for about six weeks. As for your messages I have been following on the Forum, I would beg to ask you if your assertions are based on your personal imaginations or illusions or your statements are based on facts on the ground, and intense observation and analysis of both the political and economic circumstances in the areas or regions West Nile or Uganda. Secondly I would like to say that you definitely have your own opinions and you are free to express them, and you have every reason to defend Museveni and all his crooks and thieves and the pain of poverty they have caused Ugandans in general, but please try to make these statements based of facts. I realize you are excited about the propaganda of tarmacking Arua -Koboko Road, but I would like to remind you that it is not the first time these budgets have been read, and with promises to do this and that, 25 years later these promises have not been kept. A typical example is Nyagak which was promised, and it is almost over 10 years since that promise, people in West Nile are still darkness. The issues Draga alluded to are not his imaginations but the true life of the local people. While you may think Museveni has done more for West Nile in 25 years than what Amin and Obote did in 16 years (8 years each), you may want to go back to West Nile and look at the peoples life now and reflect back on the peoples lives then for you to be able to make some of your what I would describe naive statements. You may also want to mention the visible artifacts or footprints of Museveni's 25 year rule against the combined 16 year rule of Amin and Obote. I would argue that you are a product of that era, schools and hospitals they built in West Nile are still sustaining the region, even though with very delapidated infrastructure. Which are Musevenis schools and Hospitals in West Nil, let alone the drugs in these hospitals. It is also my view that you have read the cartoon Mr. Achile posted out of contest, just as you have mis-interpreted what Mr Draga and Mr. Adiga commented. What Achile put was a political comic, and everywhere in this globe comics are used for humour though they may depict the truth of what is happening. Comics are visual means of of communicating or expression and I wonder what you deciphered from the pictures for you to react in the way you did in your response. Also try to be factual in your presentation of arguments. I know you are a teacher by profession,and I beg to ask when you taught in Ombaci Secondary School? If you trained as a teacher at the National University of Lesotho and since your graduation from the University you have never worked in Uganda, when did you then become a teacher in Ombaci? Or you mistakenly were trying to state you were a student at Ombaci!! Perhaps you taught there as a student teacher after your O-levels, and I am sure some of the Ombaci OB's remember you or will remember you. Lastly I would suggest you take emotion out of your communication so that people can read the rational aspect of your arguments. As an intellectual, the debate should focus on the issue not on personal attacks or accusations. With a good budget and your hero Museveni leading the cause, it is about time you get back to Uganda to enjoy the benefits of all these goodies Museveni has provided for the people of West Nile in particular and for Ugandans in general. You mentioned something about Museveni forgiving all soldiers under Amins Government, perhaps to mean that they were done a favour by Museveni. It would have been nice to know what crime they did that could only to be forgiven by Museveni. Were those not Government civil servants who happened to be in the military? Museveni and his group were just anti-government forces just like some of those Amin forces, it all depends on how these things play out in the end. Next time do not be surprised when it will be pardoning Museveni's forces. Who ever thought that with kind of Military Amin had he would end up where he did, think about that !!!!!!! Kind regards to all those comrades in Lesotho. Vasco On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Dimba Tabani Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: The National address by the President of Uganda reveal the following: (1)ARUA-KOBOKO-ORABA tarmacdization of the ROAD (2)ATIAK-NIMULE ROAD These are tangible projects.The projects will generate enormous job opportunities for people of WESTNILE.Teamwork need to initiated vigorously by the MPs from all sides.Eventually,a complete NETWORK of roads and NODES could emerge in our region From: Adiga Godi <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 4:54:34 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda Hi Dimba, What programes for West Nile have been opposed by the people of West Nile? Programe names opposed by the people would be ok so that we can assess what they would mean to us. Only specifics are required. Thanks. Adiga Godi. --- On Thu, 6/9/11, Dimba Tabani Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dimba Tabani Patrick <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, June 9, 2011, 10:25 AM Goodmorning Carmello Draga.This is Patrick Tabani trying to draw your attention to 1) stop insinuating circumstances or events which are not true (2)desist from thinking that Patrick Tabani originates from Onduparaka (3)be academic and mature in reasoning in connection with SUGAR plus its availability to Ugandan communities at given time.As a former teacher at St Josephs College Ombachi i really felt embarrassed with your scope and line of reasoning.I learnt alot from the late Rev Father Mick and Dr Milton Obote`s Parliamentary debates.Secondly,it is not a sin to talk good of President Museveni. Was it written in the Bible or Quaran that people who access Westnilenet should reason like Draga Esq.Please give me a breathing space.I honestly ,think that Westnile is far much better off under President MUSEVENI.The later forgave all the soldiers who served under the late AMIN DADA Even Amin`s son General Taban is ARUA. There is tarmacdised road from Karuma Falls up to Arua town.More Districts have been created.This signals job opportunities for capable Ugandans in Arua,Maracha,Koboko,Yumbe,Moyo and Ajumani. In Economics there is trickle-down theory which is really operational in Westnile.Let the local people capitalise on realistic prospects which are tangible.To Honourable ALEX ONZIMA i say BRAVO.Please team up with General MOSES ALI.Westnile needs pragmatic and dynamic leaders to pursue developmental initiatives.WEST NILE should not OPPOSE NATIONAL PROGRAMMES for the sake of appeasing Comrades DRAGA Esq and Godi Esq From: Carmello Draga <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 6:28:29 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda Patrick, I do respect your views and in any case you are entitled to them, however you should atleast have some smallest feeling of what society has at acertain moment and thanks for giving some relevant example particularly from Onduparaka in Arua with a population bigger than my and your families and when they get gittery and crazy as you assert could be for some reasons and if you are guarding the person of the president you should also guard freedom of expression of others though within limits,too.It is so disappointing to hear from a scholar of this century that its PresidentMuseveni who introduced sugar in Uganda,i thought sugar corporations like Lugazi,Kakira etal existed before 1985 .Let me also dance to your dreaming music tune of accepting that the president actual brought sugar from the bush but was he alone? this sounds like someone who during campains in Arua said i quote"vote for YKM the one who brought mobile telecommunication lines phones that your mothers are now accessing from the village"I then asked myself with an example of U S A who have door to door internet services wether Americans are claiming or thinking that it was President Bush or Obama who brought this service to the Americans. Ebedde to date is still taken by 3/4s of the people in the villages of Arua and you are really lucky to have your family or village away from Ebedde,i wish you could share the idea of how you alleviated yourself and group in isolation from what many see as a worsening situation in west nile,may be we have different west Niles.You see when you strongly sound offended that kind cartoon expression which had both the president and the Dr. and you have two sides,positively believing that it is okay to have a cartoon of the other and like wise make people predict afew things ,well if this kind of analysis is a way of accessing the sweet potatoes or cassava for escorting the Ebedde you are out of, please let us know so that the 3/4s of the Ebedde takers will also for atleast chrismas have tea with sugar,otherwise good luck --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Dimba Tabani Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dimba Tabani Patrick <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 3:11 AM Our Uganda protrayed through demeaning picture of a RULING PRESIDENT was really bad news.It showed weired mindset I was reminded of ONDUPARAKA in Arua when people go crazy on hearing descending voice against COLONEL BESIGYE.A ruling President of a country should be given RESPECT at all costs.Dr BESIGYE to me is non entity as far as Ugandan politics is concerned.Where was this so called DOCTOR when Ugandans were taking EBEDEE i.e OCOGO amandri Ugandaari.Personally i was pissed off with the degrading pictures From: Carmello Draga <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 8:08:54 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda This are the pictures of the year and i propose an honours award for Achile,what a brilliant art work and design-bravo you have made my day,week,Month Year and........... --- On Tue, 5/17/11, Achile Fendru <[email protected]> wrote: From: Achile Fendru <[email protected]> Subject: [WestNileNet] Our Uganda To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 12:56 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list [email protected] http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). 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