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NOBODY HAS TO SIT AND WAIT . Akua Serwaah > From: [email protected] > Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 37, Issue 13 > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 02:20:55 +0300 > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. INSULT TO WEST NILE CITIZENS (Adiga Godi) > 2. Re: Electricity in West Nile! (Ayikoru) > 3. Re: Electricity in West Nile! (adroamabe isaac) > 4. Re: INSULT TO WEST NILE CITIZENS (Ayikoru) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Adiga Godi <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WestNileNet] INSULT TO WEST NILE CITIZENS > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear members, > Ayikoru insulted the wisdom of the people of WEST NILE by?implying that they > were stupid not to enter the YELLOW BUS of GIFTS from a government of the > people of Uganda. > Was Ayikoru ever in EXILE at any time of her life? The people of West Nile > had HISTORY behind their understanding of what voting for NRM would mean to > them-supporting a party of the peple who sent them to hide in the bushes for > decades. All this time the voting was supposed to be a secrete balloting. Did > Museven get zero votes in West Nile? The answer is NO. So what did those who > voted for him get for their votes for him? The example is the Ayivu > contituent which was represented by Bakoko. What did they get for voting NRM? > According to the Yellow Bus theory, Ayivu and the other parts of West Nile > who voted NMR should have been COMPENSATED for their votes. What did they > get? NOTHING! WHY? GO FIGURE! If some one decides in advance that you will > get NOTHING, no matter how big piece of nyama you give him, you will not get > anything. That was WEST Nile saying we understand the situation! > Ayikoru, please do not insult the people of WEST NILE for doing the RIGHT > THING. The people of West nile KNEW EXACTLY WHY they voted the way they did > and probably understood no matter what they did, WNile's future was linked to > the rest of the North which LOST decades of their lives hiding in the bushy. > I do not know how old you are but there is NAIVITY in the writing. Please TRY > TO UNDERSTAND YOUR PEOPLE'S HISTORY?before advancing your political theories. > That is my take as a WestNiler and PROUD to be and supporting our voting > record. I stand behind waht I wrote. > Adiga Godi. > ? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20110904/b21c199b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 23:44:32 +0100 > From: Ayikoru <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear Mr. Andrua, > > Please calm down! I'm on the same side as you and all who desire genuine, non > paternalistic development in West Nile and indeed in Uganda. All I've done > in my article is to satirise the subject matter, given the mostly > intellectual predisposition on this forum. Refer to all items in inverted > commas in my original article and hope you will see what I intended in the > first place. But clearly, for now, it seems I have missed the point, which > is such a shame. > > Have a great week. > > Maureen Ayikoru > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 19:14, alex free <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine > > Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called > > yellow bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus > > is a symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a > > paternalistic political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon > > etc, the leaders act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected > > or something else, it is seen as a favour from the big person and the > > citizens where such a development takes place are supposed to be grateful > > and see the figure of that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, > > dear Maurine, is not what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason > > why most of the times people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a > > different direction. The normal understanding is that it is taxes which > > everybody pays which bring in those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese > > or Abim to have electricity or clean running wat > er whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax paid by the > citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no records of > paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If other members > of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their daily living, > why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of Uganda? Don't we, > as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is done to us? > > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so > > ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > > development of science, etc! > > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > > industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, > > cooking, students use for reading, etc. > > Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid > > cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced > > about our rights! > > > > Andrua > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > > _______________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 00:49:27 +0200 > From: adroamabe isaac <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity in West Nile! > Message-ID: > <cao5smjmg9dzt4dc7z7j76vnfr24unzdsvb8y8gj7rdzep5b...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear friends, I've been silently observing and getting iritated about > the unkind response of the president about our need for electricity. I > wonder whether the economics he graduated in is the same economics I > studied. I think the syllubus of economics has not changed much in Uganda. > Sincerely, to say that we do not have the capacity to consume electricity is > rendering us equal to dogs and cats. It is like saying to a woman you first > give birth to a baby before I give you the womb where the baby is surposed > to mature. How do we build factories and industries if the electricity isn't > there? If we pay taxes, if the same person begs votes from us and even robs > some then this contradiction can only be explained by intended economic > retardation for whatever purpose only known to the creator. Those who have > gone to Kampala, Mbarara, etc will accept with me that some of the surbubs > where elcetricity is taken are worse than some of our grass thatched houses > in the village. > I wonder which factories are found in those surbubs for them to deserve > electricity and we in westnile do not need it if not factories of > manufacturing children which we have. What we are asking for is not a favor > but a right; whoever considers electricity, hospitals, means of transport, > infrastructures as favors for which we should be insulted and fooled doesn't > know the role of the government. The same people who claim that we do not > need electricity in westnile are the same people who have gone to countries > like Italy, Germany, France where electricity reaches the last person even > if he or she is alone and in the bush, it must still reach there. This is > not because he or she has a factory but because pays taxes and thus deserves > the services. > So, must our taxes be enjoyed by others at our advantage? > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:14 PM, alex free <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Brothers and Sisters, > > > > > > Those who agree with me will not tow the line of argument of Maurine > > Ayikoru and the like. Maurine is talking about boarding the so-called yellow > > bus, I don't know which yellow bus! But the fact is, that yellow bus is a > > symbol of of politics paternalism and favouritism. I mean in a paternalistic > > political setting such as we experience in Uganda, Cameroon etc, the leaders > > act as patrons. When a road is build, a hospital erected or something else, > > it is seen as a favour from the big person and the citizens where such a > > development takes place are supposed to be grateful and see the figure of > > that politician as a saviour! That type of politics, dear Maurine, is not > > what we advocate in Uganda and it is not the reason why most of the times > > people of West Nile, Acholi, Lango etc vote in a different direction. The > > normal understanding is that it is taxes which everybody pays which bring in > > those services. So, for a citizen in Kasese or Abim to have electricity or > > clean running water whereas the one of Moyo doesn't is unfair. Does the tax > > paid by the citizen in Moyo not reach Kampala so much so that they have no > > records of paying taxes? Is it why then they are denied of electricity? If > > other members of a house receive goods essential which are useful for their > > daily living, why not the other family members? Is West Nile not part of > > Uganda? Don't we, as West Nilers, have a right to complain when injustice is > > done to us? > > Maurine, I tell you, without electricity, there is no development, what so > > ever, even if Museveni talks about industrialisation, modernisation, > > development of science, etc! > > I want to say that it is the presence of electricity that attracts > > development activities. West Nile has full potential to consume electricity > > just like Kampala, Mbarara, Jinja etc. When there is power, there will be > > industries, factories, schools will use, households will use for lighting, > > cooking, students use for reading, etc. > > Others will add to that. I want to conclude by saying that we should avoid > > cheap arguments and nobody must deny West Nile nor should we be silenced > > about our rights! > > > > Andrua > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > -- > *Adroamabe Isaac* > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20110905/8e2532ae/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 00:20:40 +0100 > From: Ayikoru <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] INSULT TO WEST NILE CITIZENS > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Mr. Adiga, > > Please refer to my response to Mr. Andrua and put your mind to rest > thereafter. By the way, try reading for the second time, my remarks that > 'there is nothing "fundamentally wrong with walking/cycling" .... and see if > you get to the same conclusion, as seen in your very first sentence. If you > still do not get my meaning, then it will indeed be very, very unfortunate. > > By the way, I think I know just a little more about Uganda's-cum-West Nile's > history, politics, suffrage etc than you are willing to give me credit for. > But then, none of that is important, I, just like yourself and many others > desire genuine development in the region. > > Cheers, > > Maureen Ayikoru > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 Sep 2011, at 23:27, Adiga Godi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear members, > > Ayikoru insulted the wisdom of the people of WEST NILE by implying that > > they were stupid not to enter the YELLOW BUS of GIFTS from a government of > > the people of Uganda. > > Was Ayikoru ever in EXILE at any time of her life? The people of West Nile > > had HISTORY behind their understanding of what voting for NRM would mean to > > them-supporting a party of the peple who sent them to hide in the bushes > > for decades. All this time the voting was supposed to be a secrete > > balloting. Did Museven get zero votes in West Nile? The answer is NO. So > > what did those who voted for him get for their votes for him? The example > > is the Ayivu contituent which was represented by Bakoko. What did they get > > for voting NRM? According to the Yellow Bus theory, Ayivu and the other > > parts of West Nile who voted NMR should have been COMPENSATED for their > > votes. What did they get? NOTHING! WHY? GO FIGURE! If some one decides in > > advance that you will get NOTHING, no matter how big piece of nyama you > > give him, you will not get anything. That was WEST Nile saying we > > understand the situation! > > Ayikoru, please do not insult the people of WEST NILE for doing the RIGHT > > THING. The people of West nile KNEW EXACTLY WHY they voted the way they did > > and probably understood no matter what they did, WNile's future was linked > > to the rest of the North which LOST decades of their lives hiding in the > > bushy. I do not know how old you are but there is NAIVITY in the writing. > > Please TRY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR PEOPLE'S HISTORY before advancing your > > political theories. > > That is my take as a WestNiler and PROUD to be and supporting our voting > > record. I stand behind waht I wrote. > > Adiga Godi. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). 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