Dear Mr. Acidri, It is a pity you clearly failed to understand the content and context of what I wrote in relation to reading Tabu's post that Dr, Sylvestre Onzivua was arrested and the reasons for his arrest were very dubious, even when he had the authority of the parliament of Uganda to do his job. While we should be thankful that he is now released and is safe, thanks to the many who got on his case and forced his release, the exact issue I talked about in my post. I can not exactly read your mind in what you were trying to express in your post, can infer that your response seems to insinuate that the illegal arrest of Dr. Onzivua was acceptable and we should not condone it in anyway and he should have been left at the mercy of the people who arrested him. Whatever you mean by this is a national tragedy!! If you meant the illegal arrest, it would see to me in your view the illegal arrest of innocent individuals should not be condoned as the you said, "the police have to do their job". Just as you do not know what I do and will find out, I do not know what you do and I will find out. May be you are a police agent who believes in illegal arrest of innocent people, I would like to request you to go and re-read what I wrote. I never claimed I was an expert in West Nile issues in any way whatsoever. However, as someone from West Nile I am not barred from expressing my views on issues affecting us as people from West Nile. The issue here was not that of being an expert in West Nile issues but a concern I expressed for an illegal arrest of our brother. If your intent in your response was to bring a discussion about Mr. Alaka, I am sorry to tell you that the issue I wrote about was not Mr. Alaka's but the illegal arrest of Dr. Onzivua. If you are an agent of illegal arrests, you are probably not happy that the pressure which I talked of in my post has worked and Dr. Onzivua is at least now released. All I can advise you is that you better read carefully and understand the content and context of what people write so that you can have an informed, intelligent discussions and comments. I am sorry you can not drag me into discussions about Mr. Alaka. If you want that issue (Mr. Alaka) to be discussed perhaps find a better and different method of introducing it and people who are interested in discussing the issue will react to it.
Take care and happy holidays On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Acidri Ernest <wenichroni...@gmail.com>wrote: > Dear all, > I wanted to use this forum to thank Tabu for the tip. can i also say > that, this a national tragedy, involving highly placed and well paid > persons. The police are doing their job, MPs are their job and others > in our group are doing what they can do best. I do not know what Vasco > Oguzua does. I will find out. I would like to advise Oguzua and his > group of self appointed experts on West Nile issues, NOT to tribalize > such tragedies. I read a story in the news papers about Caleb Alaka, > the rich lawyer. He is in a mess with the ULS and it is about > professional misconduct, and yet i know, there are many people and > groups, organizations, who have been struggling and paying huge sums > to the lawyer to represent them in court, just because Alaka is from > West Nile. Oguzua and his clique have said nothing about this, in this > forum. This forum is good, BUT... > On 12/18/12, Vasco Oguzua <vogu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I wish to thank Mr. Butagira for the information about the arrest of our > > own Dr. Sylvestre Onzivua, a Pathologist at Mulago Hospital. Reading from > > the Ugandan newspapers the allegations for his arrest seems to be a very > > serious issue - the sudden death of MP Nebanda. This is a serious matter > > that affects all of us from West Nile. I do not know what the situation > is > > like on the ground, however, I think we should take a keen interest in > > following this arrest and suggest that the people in Kampala in positions > > that can help need to be approached to get the release of Dr. Onzivua. > The > > people I would think we need to get involved are the Minister of Health. > Dr > > Ondoa, under whose docket Dr. Onzivua is an employee. The MPs from West > > Nile should be at the fore of this issue and we need a community > solidarity > > to push these officials to ensure the safety of Dr. Onzivua. > > I do not know the mechanics of work between government pathologists and > > pathologists at the government hospital in Mulago Hospital where Dr > Onzivua > > is an pathologist. The lame excuse the police have given for his arrest > is > > something we as a community need to condemn and demand a clear > explanation > > and release of the doctor. Please people on the ground should take a lead > > on this and would like to request Mr. Ejiku as the acting leader to bring > > this issue to the attention of members for discussion and action. > > Our strength can only be in our solidarity and count ourselves in to make > > our voices known for the injustice and and oppression of innocent people. > > Thanks you > > > > Vasco > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:22 AM, tabua butagira <tbutag...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Dear members, > >> > >> I have received confirmation that pathologist Sylvestre Onzivua > >> of Makerere University has been arrested by Police over his involvement > >> in > >> facilitating a conclusive investigation in the sudden and suspicious > >> demise > >> of Butaleja District Woman MP Cerinah Nebanda Arioru, an adulterated > >> pronounciation of Alioru. (I'm told the fallen MP's father is from > >> Maracha). > >> > >> The Ugandan Parliament & Nebanda's family reportedly contracted Dr > >> Onzivua > >> to fly the samples to a South African laboratory for conclusive > >> toxicological tests. > >> > >> Police now say that Onzivua obtained samples of body parts of the fallen > >> MP irregularly. Detectives say he violated law and procedure on doing > >> post-mortem, and is helping them establish how he acquired the samples, > >> the > >> circumstances of their custody and who authorised him. > >> > >> No details where Onzivua is being held. I don't have his contact or of > >> his > >> family. If you do, kindly get in touch as we piece up the story for > >> publication in tomorrow's Daily Monitor. > >> > >> Full police statement below: > >> > >> > >> PRESS STATEMENT > >> > >> As the Inspector-General of Police had briefed the public yesterday; > >> Police commenced investigations following the tragic death of Hon. > >> Cerinah > >> Nebanda, and, among other routine procedures, requested Mulago Hospital > >> to > >> conduct a Post-Mortem examination on the body of the deceased. > >> > >> Police allowed the family and some members of Parliament to sent > >> representatives, and observe the Post-Mortem examination. The > preliminary > >> results of the Post-Mortem were inconclusive, and the team of > >> Pathologists > >> referred certain samples to the Government Analytical Laboratories, for > >> further tests. > >> > >> The samples were sealed as required, and escorted to the Government > >> Analytical Laboratories (GAL) by, among others, the MPs who had > witnessed > >> the Post-Mortem. > >> > >> At GAL, such samples are, as routine procedure, received formally, their > >> descriptions and quantities determined and documented, and the nature of > >> the requested analysis clearly recorded. > >> > >> This procedure is vital, not just for scientific purposes, but also as > >> part the crucial 'chain-of-custody' requirement in criminal > >> investigations, > >> and, ultimately, in criminal prosecution in court. > >> > >> Any samples handled outside this procedure breach the integrity of the > >> forensic examinations, as well as making the final outcome inadmissible > >> in > >> any potential criminal prosecution, and suspicious. > >> > >> On Monday, the 17th of December, 2012, Police discovered that certain > >> samples from the body of the deceased had been irregularly obtained by > >> individuals not involved in the Police investigation, and without > >> knowledge > >> of the Police. > >> > >> Later in the day, after he had been confronted by CID, a pathologist > from > >> Mulago Hospital, Dr. Sylvester Onzivua wrote to the Director of CID, > >> informing the CID that he had been hired by Parliament to carry out > >> parallel forensic investigations into the death of Hon. Cerinah Nebanda, > >> and asked for the Director's advice. > >> > >> In the evening, a meeting was convened at the offices of the Executive > >> Director of Mulago Hospital, which was attended by five members of > >> Parliament, a team of Police officers led by the Director of CID, two > >> pathologists who participated in the Post-Mortem, and scientists from > >> GAL. > >> > >> It was resolved that all forensic procedures be consolidated under GAL, > >> and that Dr. Onzivua would submit the samples in his possession to the > >> stipulated procedures. > >> > >> Early this morning, in direct contravention of the law and professional > >> requirements, and before the Director of CID could respond to his > letter, > >> Dr. Sylvester Onzivua attempted to smuggle the samples out of the > >> country. > >> He was arrested at Entebbe Airport, while in possession of the samples. > >> > >> As a general principle, and in the interests of transparency and > >> professionalism, Police allow representatives of families and other > >> relevant parties to observe, and even seek second opinions, in certain > >> matters under investigation. > >> > >> This, however, must be done in accordance with the law, while, at all > >> times, observing all the requisite professional procedures that would > >> ensure that the results are credible, and would add value to the Police > >> investigation. > >> > >> Should a person require extra samples for independent analysis, the > >> procedure demands that such person obtains the samples from GAL, which > >> would oversee the process, document it, and ensure that all scientific > >> fine > >> points are observed. > >> > >> In this instance, it is not clear what samples were in possession of the > >> third parties, how they were obtained, and the conditions under which > >> they > >> were kept. > >> > >> Moreover, Dr. Onzivua, who is a civil servant, had not been cleared to > >> travel out of the country, and neither had he obtained the authority > >> required to export the samples out of the country. > >> > >> Dr. Onzivua is at the moment in custody of the Police, to assist in the > >> determining why he violated the laid down procedures and regulations. > >> > >> Any person found to have contravened the law shall be dealt with > >> accordingly. > >> > >> > >> Judith Nabakooba > >> Police Spokesperson > >> Uganda Police Force > >> > >> 18th December, 2012.****** > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WestNileNet mailing list > >> WestNileNet@kym.net > >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >> > >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >> attachments if any). 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