Dear Friends, If you went to Primary School or Secondary in the 1960's and 1960's, you probably remember the names of chiefs we used to sing in Primary 3. I never ever heard of Lugbara Agofe who was the central Chief (King). Neither is there any historical records to prove Lugbara, Madi or Kakwa had agofe. Many of you will remember the names of famous chiefs you heard about were Noah Agikoa, Miria Andua, Juma, Boroa, etc.
I find it so ridiculous and insane that some individuals want to claim they are Dynasty of Lugbara land. Do we really need these kind of Royal chiefs or Agofe today for any purpose? Won't fixing the ailing healthcare system, collapsing education system, poor economic underdevelopment of the common people be more pragmatic than chasing chiefdom? What will chiefdom benefit the ordinary men/women/children? Unfortunately, most of the people chasing/craving for chiefdom are simply craving to satisfy their ego and selfish ambitions. If you look back at those tribes that have given Kings/kingdoms, what have they gained? What does/How does the ordinary citizen benefit from these kingdom/chiefdom stuff? May be it's time for us to carefully think about our strategic development goals in the 21st Century. Why are countries like India, China, Brazil, South Africa, many countries in East Asia & South America, Eastern Europe moving into developed world? Why are we Africans lagging behind World Development Index? JJ On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief (Caleb Alaka) > 2. Re: Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief (aggrey adrale) > 3. Re: Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief (Caleb Alaka) > 4. Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 59, Issue 39 (Ezama Ruffino) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:03:26 +0300 > From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Some time ago, Ambassador Achema Harold, opined in one of the dailies that > those seeking Agofe are self seekers, that the Lugbara were egalitarian and > believed in equality. Hon Dr. Okuonzi MP Vura rebutted the same, and > supported the idea, it is not the most pressing issue we have, Sam Andema > and father Ruffino and others what is your take on this matter. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:30:05 +0100 (BST) > From: aggrey adrale <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > To uphold some vital tradition, safeguard our unique cultures and promote > unity across the clans the Agofe institution could be useful. More so the > institution may position itself in a way that it provides literary resource > of the Lugbara historical and scientific objects, museum, etc. Part of our > Lugbara problem is that we have lost a greater part of our tradition, > culture and therefore our pride as a people. That's my take. > > > ________________________________ > From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013, 13:03 > Subject: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief > > > Some time ago, Ambassador Achema Harold, opined in one of the dailies that > those seeking Agofe are self seekers, that the Lugbara were egalitarian and > believed in equality. Hon Dr. Okuonzi MP Vura rebutted the same, and > supported the idea, it is not the most pressing issue we have, Sam Andema > and father Ruffino and others what is your take on this matter. > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20130720/2b3b2ba3/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:03:44 +0300 > From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> > To: aggrey adrale <[email protected]>, A Virtual Network for > friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Cc: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Aggrey, you have a point, I do not know what other Guru's think. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:30 PM, aggrey adrale <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > To uphold some vital tradition, safeguard our unique cultures and > promote unity across the clans the Agofe institution could be useful. More > so the institution may position itself in a way that it provides literary > resource of the Lugbara historical and scientific objects, museum, etc. > Part of our Lugbara problem is that we have lost a greater part of our > tradition, culture and therefore our pride as a people. That's my take. > > > > From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013, 13:03 > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Do the Lugbara need a traditional Chief > > > > Some time ago, Ambassador Achema Harold, opined in one of the dailies > that those seeking Agofe are self seekers, that the Lugbara were > egalitarian and believed in equality. Hon Dr. Okuonzi MP Vura rebutted the > same, and supported the idea, it is not the most pressing issue we have, > Sam Andema and father Ruffino and others what is your take on this matter. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20130720/ae994690/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:23:47 -0400 > From: Ezama Ruffino <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 59, Issue 39 > Message-ID: > <CAJ7r12xHUo_NRNu6xWrb-B5SUkDk-+8HG== > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > At Mercy Hospital > ----------------- > > A man was brought to Mercy Hospital, and went in for coronary surgery. The > operation went well, and as the groggy man regained consciousness, he was > reassured by a Sister of Mercy waiting by his bed. > > "Mr. Smith, you're going to be just fine," the nun said while patting his > hand. "We do have to > know, however, how you intend to pay for your stay here. Are you covered by > insurance?" > > "No, I'm not," the man whispered hoarsely. > "Can you pay in cash?" > > "I'm afraid I can't, Sister." > "Do you have any close relatives, then?" > > "Just my sister in New Mexico, but she's a spinster nun.", said the man. > > "Nuns are not spinsters, Mr. Smith," the nun replied. "They are married to > God." > > The man said with a smile, > "Okay, then bill my brother-in-law." > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM, <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > This is good... No messing with grandmas (chuckles!!) > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 59, Issue 39 > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, July 19, 2013 2:25 pm > > To: [email protected] > > > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Just for laughs - from a facebook friend (Maandera) > > 2. Re: Just for laughs - from a facebook friend (samuel andema) > > 3. Re: Just for laughs - from a facebook friend (G. Phillip Drametu) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 00:19:05 +0400 > > From: Maandera <[email protected]> > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Just for laughs - from a facebook friend > > Message-ID: > > <CAMi0SwUUQGHfdHvHyyF09pBzjFX=3czf6zpysrcyiev21lg...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Dear all. > > > > For the weekend > > > > ............. > > > > -Lawyers should never ask a Mississippi grandma a question if they aren't > > prepared for the answer. > > > > In a trial, a Southern small-town prosecuting attorney called his first > > witness, a grandmotherly, elderly woman to the stand. He approached her > and > > asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know me?' She responded, 'Why, yes, I do know > > you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a boy, and frankly, > you've > > been a big disappointment to me. You lie, you cheat on your wife, and you > > manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think > you're > > a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you'll never amount to > > anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you.' > > > > The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across > the > > room and asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know the defense attorney?' > > > > She again replied, 'Why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a > > youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He > can't > > build a normal relationship with anyone, and his law practice is one of > the > > worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his wife with > three > > different women. One of them was your wife. Yes, I know him.' > > > > The defense attorney nearly died. > > > > The judge asked both counselors to approach the bench and, in a very > quiet > > voice, said, > > > > 'If either of you idiots asks her if she knows me, I'll send you both to > > the electric chair.' > > > > ......... > > Enjoy > > > > Maandera > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20130720/91986278/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:59:43 +0100 (BST) > > From: samuel andema <[email protected]> > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Just for laughs - from a facebook friend > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hi Bona, > > ? > > I really loved the joke! The old lady is my hero. She is the only person > > who can manage the learned fellow! > > ? > > Sam > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Maandera <[email protected]> > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013, 13:19 > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Just for laughs - from a facebook friend > > > > > > > > Dear all. > > > > > > For the weekend > > > > ............. > > > > > > -Lawyers should never ask a Mississippi grandma a question if they aren't > > prepared for the answer. > > > > In a trial, a Southern small-town prosecuting attorney called his first > > witness, a grandmotherly, elderly woman to the stand. He > > approached her and asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know me?' She responded, > > 'Why, yes, I do know you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a > > boy, and frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me. You lie, you > > cheat on your wife, and you manipulate people and talk about them behind > > their backs. You think you're a big shot when you haven't the brains to > > realize you'll never amount to anything more than a two-bit paper > > pusher. Yes, I know you.' > > > > The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing > > what else to do, he pointed across the room and asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do > > you know the defense attorney?' > > > > She again replied, 'Why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a > > youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He > > can't build a normal relationship with anyone, and his law practice is > > one of the worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his > > wife with three different women. One of them was your wife. Yes, I know > > him.' > > > > The defense attorney nearly died. > > > > The judge asked both counselors to approach the bench and, in a very > quiet > > voice, said, > > > > 'If either of you idiots asks her if she knows me, I'll send you both to > > the electric chair.' > > > > ......... > > Enjoy > > > > Maandera > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. > > _______________________________________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20130719/3c96bb55/attachment-0001.html> > > ; > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:19:33 -0400 > > From: "G. Phillip Drametu" <[email protected]> > > To: samuel andema <[email protected]>, A Virtual Network for > > friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Just for laughs - from a facebook friend > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > The fellow must have been fresh to trade. The rules are; be prepared, > > don't guess and don't ask a question if you do not know the answer to it. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2013-07-19, at 4:59 PM, samuel andema <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Bona, > > > > > > I really loved the joke! The old lady is my hero. She is the only > person > > who can manage the learned fellow! > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > From: Maandera <[email protected]> > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013, 13:19 > > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Just for laughs - from a facebook friend > > > > > > Dear all. > > > > > > For the weekend > > > > > > ............. > > > > > > -Lawyers should never ask a Mississippi grandma a question if they > > aren't prepared for the answer. > > > > > > In a trial, a Southern small-town prosecuting attorney called his first > > witness, a grandmotherly, elderly woman to the stand. He approached her > and > > asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know me?' She responded, 'Why, yes, I do know > > you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a boy, and frankly, > you've > > been a big disappointment to me. You lie, you cheat on your wife, and you > > manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think > you're > > a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you'll never amount to > > anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you.' > > > > > > The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across > > the room and asked, 'Mrs. Jones, do you know the defense attorney?' > > > > > > She again replied, 'Why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was > a > > > youngster, too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He > > can't build a normal relationship with anyone, and his law practice is > one > > of the worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his wife > > with three different women. One of them was your wife. Yes, I know him.' > > > > > > The defense attorney nearly died. > > > > > > The judge asked both counselors to approach the bench and, in a very > > quiet voice, said, > > > > > > 'If either of you idiots asks her if she knows me, I'll send you both > to > > the electric chair.' > > > > > > ......... > > > Enjoy > > > > > > Maandera > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WestNileNet mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). 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