Thanks Mandeera, we had an executive meeting with the coordinator on Sunday 21/7/2013 and we are having another meeting in two weeks time. We are going to have a time frame within which we have updates, may be weekly or whatever as the executive will determine. All the issues raised by members shall be looked into by the executive and an appropriate response will be given. Otherwise, thanks so much
Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Robert Ejiku <[email protected]> wrote: > Maandera, > > I must appreciate these comments which just go to show you read the report > fully from the way you have reacted. I am sure too that a response in the > manner we agreed in the Excom will come soon. > > Mr. Ezaga take note of the comments made by Maandera as well. > > Thank you. > > > Ejiku > > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Maandera <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> (Second attempt). >> >> I have read the State of the Net report and some of the related comments >> contributed. I wish to add my contribution, focusing on the following >> randomly selected issues. >> >> 1. The report per se: I do agree with those who think that this Report is >> welcome, timely, worth it, etc. Thanks a lot for listening to members pleas. >> As a "Status" report, I think it is presented with a White hat on (to borrow >> Edward de Bono’s schema), though there are some aspects of the Black hat in >> it: see sub-section 1.5 on "Challenges faced along the way". >> >> Considering the nature of the report and the years and activities done, I >> want to take it more as a "summary status report" than a "comprehensive >> status report". The history was new to me, and informative too. >> >> 1. 1. Missing document: Is it an issue of the control system of the WNN >> listserve? One of the attachments, the constitution, which is a very >> important document is still missing. Mr. Kiggundu, I know you have done a >> good job, without complaining so far, about providing this service for free. >> Could you help? >> (By the way, one time in 2011, Mr. Robert Ejiku attached the Memorandum of >> Association of the WNF. I am wondering if this is the same thing . . . I >> don't want to presume things. Please clarify.) >> >> 1. 2. The logo: I like it. Thanks for the team that made it possible. >> >> 2. The West Nile Night: Long live the WN Night and those behind it – the >> Committee and others who might not be members of the Committee! It certainly >> sounds like something worth continuing. >> >> 3. Education agenda of the WNF: In 1.4.1, while noting support in Tertiary >> institutions, it is noted that the Foundation will encourage and support >> students in "their activities which the Foundation deems relevant". How >> about including and formally working with the administration of these >> institutions where the Foundation will be supporting the students as well? >> >> 3.1. Model school: Is the to-be model school going to be a Primary, or >> Secondary school or both? What’s the plan like? >> >> 3.2. Other areas: Hope in due course we can have some more detail about >> other areas such as Agriculture, Health (as already suggested by one member >> in responding to this report). >> >> 4. Membership: Under 2.2 “West Nile Foundation Education Trust Fund (Trust >> deed)” there are 3 sub-sections. Under subsection 2, the “Tentative list of >> paid up members” is provided. It has 22 members, who have paid up membership >> fee of UG.shs 20,000 /= and an annual subscription of 10,000/= (which only 5 >> of the listed members have paid.). Just to synch my confusion: in the >> Memorandum of Association referred to above and attached, there was a list >> of 101 “founding?” members. This list of 22 persons being the only list of >> “paid up members” in this report, I am left with a question: Is this >> membership for WNF Education Trust Fund only or is it the paid up membership >> status update for the general WNF? (See also my comment under 6.2). Forgive >> my lack of understanding but a confusion also arises for me because when in >> 2011, issues of membership were discussed in this forum, I thought the >> figure agreed upon was UG.shs 50,000/= for membership fee (of the WNF). >> Before the failed General Meeting of 2011, I even paid this 50,000/= to the >> Treasurer for membership and have his acknowledgement to this effect. >> (Though my name has never surfaced anywhere as a member of the WNF). >> >> 4.1 For curiosity’s sake, Mr. Kiggundu, would it be possible to let us know >> just how many people are subscribed into the WNF? I know there are people >> who have kept on asking to be deleted from the list. An update would give a >> good idea of what the potential is. I bet it will also help us appreciate >> how many members are ROMs (Read Only Members) and why they choose / prefer >> to be ROMs. Much appreciated. >> >> >> 4.2 Draft Strategic Plan: I remember a Draft Strategic Plan was issued in >> 2011 and was shared in this Net. I think some people commented on it too. >> Under 2.6.(6) in the Report, there is mention of this: a “Draft Strategic >> plan of WNF has been drawn and this will be shared with members in due >> course”. Is this the going to be an updated version? Waiting to see the >> changes. >> >> 5. The Executive serving as volunteers: I was rather surprised at the >> membership of the Interim Executive, put in place at “DMO’s place” with >> others co-opted along the way. Members, we have a full house, complete with >> Standing Committees! Moreover the task of leading this Foundation is what >> the members are said to have “gladly accepted to undertake” (1.3, Report). >> From the “look” of things (or readings in the WNF), it would appear that >> some members of the leadership might have a completely different adjective >> describing their experience. Anyhow, thanks still for having gladly accepted >> to do this task. >> >> 5.1: The Gender Committee: I notice there no males in the Gender Committee. >> Any specific reason? It would be good to have the perspectives of the other >> side as well. >> >> 5.2 Coordinator of WNF activities: One of the positive propositions of the >> Interim Executive has been the appointment of Richard Okuti Boroa as a >> Coordinator for 6 months. I hope will sort out some of the Foundation is >> facing, particularly in pushing things forward. And thanks Richard, for >> offering to run the activities from your private office. (Where can we find >> this office?) >> >> 5.3 The TOR of the Coordinator of the WNF. I have a request to make – that >> the said TOR for the Coordinator (which has been “adjusted to suit the >> 6-month period”) be made public in this Net. This will serve several >> purposes like ensuring members do not expect more from him than he is >> mandated to; enabling members to make suggestions on the TOR; and enabling >> members to support the Coordinator or appraise his work, considering the >> conditions under which he is working. >> >> 5.4 Specification of the 6 months. Just a question: Has this 6-month period >> already begun? If “No”, when will it begin? >> >> 6. What’s in a name? >> 6.1. WNF – is it a Lugbara thing? I think the observation is apt. It even >> made me wonder if that was one of the reasons why one also hears of a KKnet? >> Who knows, other districts / areas are also thinking of doing the same or >> have started similar ‘organs’? >> Anyhow, the suggestion of members of how this perception of WNF as an Arua >> thing, may have come about holds water. In addition, members might want to >> consider the fact that sometimes things have centred in Arua simply because >> of the historical role Arua has played in the region, and for >> practical-cum-infrastructural reasons. This was also an underlying factor in >> the establishment of Muni University (initially called West Nile University). >> There are also good suggestions for how to alter this perception. Let’s grab >> these and make this organization move forward for the good of the region. >> >> 6.2. Clarification of status: One person (Tabu) has already asked this: Is >> the status that of “a development pressure group, civil society >> organisation, a community initiative, a company limited by shares or just a >> Foundation”. If you search this Net, you will find that on 14th Oct, 2010, >> Mr. Alaka posted to this net a Certificate of Incorporation for West Nile >> Foundation Limited, dated 8th October, 2010. (Being a “njuka” in the WNN >> then, I downloaded and saved a copy of it). I remember, members were very >> happy about this achievement and many did express this in black and white on >> the Net. >> >> I guess when one reads under 2.6.3 in the Report that “The Trust Deed for >> the WNETF has finally been developed and it is in the final stages of being >> duly registered”, things get a little murky. Though for purposes of separate >> accountability, it does make sense to have a separate account for the >> Education agenda. Still, some clarification would be useful, as to the >> purpose of this specific registration considering the fact that other areas >> / agenda’s of the WNF are still going to pick up. Does this mean each area >> of activity (e.g. Health, Agriculture, Environment) will be separately >> registered? I thought we would use the already registered organization to >> open separate accounts if/when needed. You may have to forgive me for being >> this duff: registration of organizations is like football to me J What >> necessitates this other registration of the WNF Education Trust Fund or >> Trust Deed is what I do not understand yet. >> >> 7. Associate membership: I guess the Constitution would have clarified this, >> to address concerns of the many who are not native to the WN but have >> interests for the good of the region. Anyhow, thanks Caleb for clarifying. >> >> My humble contribution. >> >> Maandera >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Adiga Godi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> We just need to elect officials with names ranging from Pakwach to Adjumani >>> and award scholarships across West Nile. That will show diversity and >>> dispel the Lugbara thing. >>> Adiga godi. >>> >>> From: Robert Ejiku <[email protected]> >>> To: banduga ismail <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for friends of >>> West Nile <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:17 AM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] State of the Foundation Address >>> >>> Presida, >>> >>> Banduga raises a good point here and I think we should be able to improve >>> our communications and actions to capture our rich diversity. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ejiku >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:55 AM, banduga ismail <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Thank you Caleb for this elaborate report. For many of us who did not know >>> well what had happened and was happening, this report gives us an insight. >>> I think it is high time we paid up our membership and annual subscriptions. >>> >>> One thing in the report set me thinking for a while. The thinking that WNF >>> is a Lugbara thing is an aspect we should collectively try to dispel. In my >>> experience, most institutions that begin actually do so from an idea of one >>> or two individuals, who in most cases may be of the same tribe, faith or >>> come from the same place. As the thinking spreads with time, this challenge >>> often comes up. In the way the President put it, it does not seem to be an >>> alarming thing; however, I think we should try to demystify it so that we >>> enjoy the benefits of collective bargaining as the people of West Nile. >>> >>> It possible to understand from the organizers Foundation events e.g. the >>> West Nile Night, Education Trust how the attendance or participation has >>> been in terms of diversity of West Nile (different ethnic groupings) and >>> whether there are reasons other than interest or lack of it to explain the >>> trends. >>> >>> "your greatest enemies are not those who shout at everything you say; they >>> are those who keep quiet" >>> >>> From: Godfrey Mundua <[email protected]> >>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013, 16:01 >>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] State of the Foundation Address >>> >>> Counsel, >>> Good and timely response with this comprehensive report. >>> I hope this finally puts doubting minds to rest. >>> Time now for everyone in the mailing list and all concerned about WNF to >>> respond to the report with positive criticism and suggestions if any. >>> Thanks once again. >>> GOD BLESS! >>> >>> Mundua Godfrey (IT) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:43 PM, tabua butagira <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thanks, Caleb, for this detailed write-up. I hope the emerging discussions >>> on this report by members (after perusal) will be hinged on action needed, >>> not free-wheeling rhetoric. Let's invest our time, ideas, professional or >>> personal networks, cash/material or other such resources to fully lift the >>> initiative off the ground. >>> >>> That appears tto be he clarion call in the President's message, if I >>> haven't adulterated the intepretation. >>> >>> Except for some dropped words, the document is comprehensive and >>> informative. >>> >>> I'm hoping the Foundation leadership particularly clarifies WNF's status; >>> do we categorise it as a development pressure group, civil society >>> organisation, a community initiative, a company limited by shares or just a >>> Foundation so that its operational relationship - opportunities and >>> limitations - with other stakeholders is easier to discern and rationalise. >>> >>> I bow in respect, Counsel! >>> >>> Tabu Butagira >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Onugbea Williams <[email protected]> >>> To: samuel andema <[email protected]>; Caleb Alaka >>> <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >>> <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:15 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] State of the Foundation Address >>> >>> >>> Good state of foundation address. >>> please H.E, could you add the intervention and thier numbers especially >>> from items 1.4.3 to 1.4.6 >>> Regards >>> From: samuel andema <[email protected]> >>> To: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for friends of >>> West Nile <[email protected]>; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:59 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] State of the Foundation Address >>> >>> Ha ha ha ha ha... >>> Kaleb, who told you we don't have leader of opposition in this "virtual >>> parliament"? Do you remember father Rofino's piece about the conversation >>> between a priest and a Christian whom the priest asked whether he ever >>> prays and the man said yes he prays, and when the priest asked how come he >>> had never seen him in the church the man replied that he is in the "secret >>> service"! We might be having leaders of opposition who are in the "secret >>> service" to use father's words. >>> >>> But on a serious note I wish to thank you and the executive committee for >>> taking the time to respond to many concerns over lack of feedback from the >>> leadership. I hope to read through the document carefully to be able to >>> make an appropriate response. >>> >>> Once again thank you very much for your positive response. >>> >>> Sam >>> >>> From: Caleb Alaka <[email protected]> >>> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 13:28 >>> Subject: [WestNileNet] State of the Foundation Address >>> >>> Dear Colleagues, please find attached a state of the Foundation Address for >>> your deliberations, comments, dissection. As the Virtual Parliament, your >>> positive contribution will be appreciated. Note that since we have no >>> position of Leader of Opposition, we hope for constructive criticism. >>> >>> May the Almighty God bless all of you >>> > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > _______________________________________________
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