If you grew up between 1978 and 1986, many of you will remember the pain and suffering from WAR. Many of us who communicate on this forum lost their youthful years in insane war. Who was actually liberated between 1978-1981 and from 1982-1986? If all Ugandans could remember the bitterness of these senseless wars, loss of lives, property destruction, loss of education for their children, deprivation from economic development, etc, who truly wants to spend his/her time promoting a war in his town, country or even village today? Haven't Ugandans learned enough lesson from Konyi and his rebel activities in Northern Uganda? Who are the beneficiaries of these ridiculous war mongering business? It is only greedy individuals who want it all for themselves. I am curious why some of these folks cannot become good politicians and join forces to defeat the president in elections? Central American countries have learned that they can only develop if there is peace. Their economy is getting better or booming. Asian countries have also learned that they can attract foreign investment if they promote peace. These countries are emerging from the Third World status. Why can't African leaders leaders and leaders to be and so on learn this fundamental secret to development of attracting foreign investment, PEACE? Wherever there is peace, there is development. It takes a moment to blow down cities but rebuilding the infrastructure takes decades or even century in case of Africa.
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Re: SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR DRUMS > (George Afi Obitre-Gama) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:38:40 -0400 > From: Charles Male <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>, > Kobokonet Koboko <[email protected]> > Subject: [WestNileNet] SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR DRUMS > Message-ID: > <CAH4CdC2LffyWcFcadO2Kc6u9J0DvNfLiq3xh= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Memebrs what do you think? > > This is serious and I hope WEST NILE REGION will not ONCE AGAIN be > drawn into any thing.... > > -------------------------- > > Sejusa, Obote commander join forces > Top Stories > > Sunday, 29 September 2013 18:04 Written by SIRAJE LUBWAMA & AGENCIES 0 > Comments Two longtime ?enemies?, Gen David Sejusa and Col John > Ogole have joined forces to fight President Museveni?s government. > > Sejusa is a veteran of the NRA bush war that ousted the Milton Obote > and Tito Okello Lutwa regimes while Ogole was the linchpin in the > Obote army that fiercely fought the NRA in the Luweero Triangle. > > Their union was announced by Gen Sejusa at the weekend, almost a week > after he formed his ?liberation? group, Free Uganda, to oust his > former boss, Museveni. > > It is not yet clear how Sejusa and his associates intend to oust > Museveni. Announcing the formation of Free Uganda, Sejusa vowed to use > all constitutional means. It?s not clear if armed rebellion is an > option although seeking alliances with soldiers like him speaks > volumes. > > Prior to agreeing a deal to work together to end ?the current > oligarchy? in Kampala, the two met severally over months in the UK, > according to an email from Sejusa. > > In his weekend email, Sejusa said he and Ogole had been leading their > respective teams of officers, drawn from inside Uganda and in exile. > > Although the details of their discussions remain scanty, both Gen > Sejusa and Col Ogole have confirmed meeting and burying the hatchet, > ostensibly for the ?sake of Uganda?. > > Commenting on his monumental meeting with Colonel Ogole, Sejusa said, > ??for the sake of Uganda, everything is possible, including admitting > past mistakes and moving forward, as a way of atonement. > Reconciliation of the Ugandan people is the only viable way to bring > about sustainable peace in our country. Our mission is to secure the > future of Uganda so we must not use the past to obscure the mission of > today.? > > For his part, Col Ogole, as quoted in Sejusa?s email, said: ??it is > true we have been meeting. Uganda is bigger than all of us. And > everything that can bring peace and reconciliation in our country must > be done irrespective of history both real and perceived. > > This is a historic opportunity to heal the wounds of our country. It > will advance a sense of nationhood for all the people of Uganda. In > the post-Museveni Uganda, we will all feel that we belong?. > > Last week, the army warned Sejusa that he would be crushed. > > ?The UPDF is a powerful institution, we have defeated over 20 rebel > groups since 1987 so whoever tries to destabilise the country is > joking with fire and will be dealt with, with full force,? said Lt Col > Paddy Ankunda, the army spokesman. > > Who is Ogole? > Sejusa has been in the news headlines since April, when he fled the > country. Shortly after, media reported his dossier in which he > demanded an investigation into a rumoured plot to kill top army and > government officials opposed to the alleged presidential ambitions of > First Son Muhoozi Kainerugaba. > > Brig Muhoozi heads the elite Special Forces Command, and both the > government and the army have denied that he is eying his father?s job. > > Ogole, now in his 60s, rose through the ranks in the Uganda Army. Now > head of the Lango Elders Council in the UK, he joined the armed forces > in the mid 1960s and served in several positions that included > Adjutant, Commanding Officer; Brigade Commander; Deputy Director of > Records; and Chief of Personnel in the Uganda National Liberation Army > (UNLA). > > Around 1983-5, after attending a military course at Fort Leavenworth, > Kansas, USA, he was deployed in the Luweero Triangle to fight the > rebel NRA led by Museveni. > > It is said Ogole, who came to be known as ?a brilliant battle > technician and chief strategist, commanded operations that gave NRA > fighters a bloody nose, leading to the guerilla group?s temporary > disintegration. > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:34:38 +0100 (BST) > From: samuel andema <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>, > Kobokonet Koboko <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR > DRUMS > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Charles you are right. When you take into consideration the ultimate price > of war that ordinary people pay in terms of loss of lives, destruction of > property, disruption of family life, breakdown of socioeconomic production, > loss of opportunity to educate your children, the restlessness people have > to endure when running around and the time it takes to recover from armed > conflicts, our people should just ignore the war drums coming from European > capitals and concentrate on rebuilding their lives and laying better > foundation for the future of our children through education.?In the past > West Nile has been involved in fighting other people's wars since > colonialism, none of which has brought about any significant benefits to > the region. The number of young people West Nile has lost in all the wars > in Uganda and beyond is more than any region has endured in the history of > armed conflicts in Uganda. At the end of the day we have always been > rewarded with > coffins containing bodies of our young people who would have used their > youthful energy to fend for their families. I grew up in war and have a > pretty good sense of who suffers and who benefits from wars. They say a man > bitten twice by the same snake on the same sport is a fool! > Thanks.?? > Sam > > > ________________________________ > From: Charles Male <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>; > Kobokonet Koboko <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013, 8:38 > Subject: [WestNileNet] SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR DRUMS > > > Memebrs what do you think? > > This is serious and I hope WEST NILE REGION will not ONCE AGAIN be > drawn into any thing.... > > -------------------------- > > Sejusa, Obote commander join forces > Top Stories > > Sunday, 29 September 2013 18:04 Written by SIRAJE LUBWAMA & AGENCIES 0 > Comments? ? Two longtime ?enemies?, Gen David Sejusa and Col John > Ogole have joined forces to fight President Museveni?s government. > > Sejusa is a veteran of the NRA bush war that ousted the Milton Obote > and Tito Okello Lutwa regimes while Ogole was the linchpin in the > Obote army that fiercely fought the NRA in the Luweero Triangle. > > Their union was announced by Gen Sejusa at the weekend, almost a week > after he formed his ?liberation? group, Free Uganda, to oust his > former boss, Museveni. > > It is not yet clear how Sejusa and his associates intend to oust > Museveni. Announcing the formation of Free Uganda, Sejusa vowed to use > all constitutional means. It?s not clear if armed rebellion is an > option although seeking alliances with soldiers like him speaks > volumes. > > Prior to agreeing a deal to work together to end ?the current > oligarchy? in Kampala, the two met severally over months in the UK, > according to an email from Sejusa. > > In his weekend email, Sejusa said he and Ogole had been leading their > respective teams of officers, drawn from inside Uganda and in exile. > > Although the details of their discussions remain scanty, both Gen > Sejusa and Col Ogole have confirmed meeting and burying the hatchet, > ostensibly for the ?sake of Uganda?. > > Commenting on his monumental meeting with Colonel Ogole, Sejusa said, > ??for the sake of Uganda, everything is possible, including admitting > past mistakes and moving forward, as a way of atonement. > Reconciliation of the Ugandan people is the only viable way to bring > about sustainable peace in our country. Our mission is to secure the > future of Uganda so we must not use the past to obscure the mission of > today.? > > For his part, Col Ogole, as quoted in Sejusa?s email, said: ??it is > true we have been meeting. Uganda is bigger than all of us. And > everything that can bring peace and reconciliation in our country must > be done irrespective of history both real and perceived. > > This is a historic opportunity to heal the wounds of our country. It > will advance a sense of nationhood for all the people of Uganda. In > the post-Museveni Uganda, we will all feel that we belong?. > > Last week, the army warned Sejusa that he would be crushed. > > ?The UPDF is a powerful institution, we have defeated over 20 rebel > groups since 1987 so whoever tries to destabilise the country is > joking with fire and will be dealt with, with full force,? said Lt Col > Paddy Ankunda, the army spokesman. > > Who is Ogole? > Sejusa has been in the news headlines since April, when he fled the > country. Shortly after, media reported his dossier in which he > demanded an investigation into a rumoured plot to kill top army and > government officials opposed to the alleged presidential ambitions of > First Son Muhoozi Kainerugaba. > > Brig Muhoozi heads the elite Special Forces Command, and both the > government and the army have denied that he is eying his father?s job. > > Ogole, now in his 60s, rose through the ranks in the Uganda Army. Now > head of the Lango Elders Council in the UK, he joined the armed forces > in the mid 1960s and served in several positions that included > Adjutant, Commanding Officer; Brigade Commander; Deputy Director of > Records; and Chief of Personnel in the Uganda National Liberation Army > (UNLA). > > Around 1983-5, after attending a military course at Fort Leavenworth, > Kansas, USA, he was deployed in the Luweero Triangle to fight the > rebel NRA led by Museveni. > > It is said Ogole, who came to be known as ?a brilliant battle > technician and chief strategist, commanded operations that gave NRA > fighters a bloody nose, leading to the guerilla group?s temporary > disintegration. > > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > _______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20130929/84557416/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: George Afi Obitre-Gama <[email protected]> > To: samuel andema <[email protected]>, A Virtual Network for > friends of West Nile <[email protected]>, Kobokonet Koboko > <[email protected]>, A Virtual Network for friends of West > Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR > DRUMS > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If at all this is true, then this marriage of convenience between Sejusa > and Ogoole is unfortunate and should never ever be acceptable to the people > West Nile, Northern Uganda and/or the people greater Uganda. The war drum > is totally unacceptable and should be rejected by all right thinking > Ugandans. I would want to believe that the breaking news item is a lie > being orchestrated by a few individuals, who, for their own selfish and > egocentric interests, want to destabilize the people of Uganda and gain > from the 'economic' effects of war just as it happened some twenty or so > years ago. If Sejusa wants to wage war to the people of Uganda, let him > start it from elsewhere but not Northern Uganda or West Nile! We are tired, > our people have been taken 20 years behind the rest of Uganda and yet > despite this fact, the sons and daughters of West Nile have made great > strides in the economic development of West Nile mostly by themselves such > that they are even > better than some regions in Uganda - take the instance of Busoga!! > > > ________________________________ > From: samuel andema <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>; > Kobokonet Koboko <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR DRUMS > > > > Charles you are right. When you take into consideration the ultimate price > of war that ordinary people pay in terms of loss of lives, destruction of > property, disruption of family life, breakdown of socioeconomic production, > loss of opportunity to educate your children, the restlessness people have > to endure when running around and the time it takes to recover from armed > conflicts, our people should just ignore the war drums coming from European > capitals and concentrate on rebuilding their lives and laying better > foundation for the future of our children through education.?In the past > West Nile has been involved in fighting other people's wars since > colonialism, none of which has brought about any significant benefits to > the region. The number of young people West Nile has lost in all the wars > in Uganda and beyond is more than any region has endured in the history of > armed conflicts in Uganda. At the end of the day we have always been > rewarded with > coffins containing bodies of our young people who would have used their > youthful energy to fend for their families. I grew up in war and have a > pretty good sense of who suffers and who benefits from wars. They say a man > bitten twice by the same snake on the same sport is a fool! > Thanks.?? > Sam > > From: Charles Male <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]>; > Kobokonet Koboko <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013, 8:38 > Subject: [WestNileNet] SEJUSA (TINYEFUZA) & OGOLE BEATING WAR DRUMS > > > Memebrs what do you think? > > This is serious and I hope WEST NILE REGION will not ONCE AGAIN be > drawn into any thing.... > > -------------------------- > > Sejusa, Obote commander join forces > Top Stories > > Sunday, 29 September 2013 18:04 Written by SIRAJE LUBWAMA & AGENCIES 0 > Comments? ? Two longtime ?enemies?, Gen David Sejusa and Col John > Ogole have joined forces to fight President > Museveni?s government. > > Sejusa is a veteran of the NRA bush war that ousted the Milton Obote > and Tito Okello Lutwa regimes while Ogole was the linchpin in the > Obote army that fiercely fought the NRA in the Luweero Triangle. > > Their union was announced by Gen Sejusa at the weekend, almost a week > after he formed his ?liberation? group, Free Uganda, to oust his > former boss, Museveni. > > It is not yet clear how Sejusa and his associates intend to oust > Museveni. Announcing the formation of Free Uganda, Sejusa vowed to use > all constitutional means. It?s not clear if armed rebellion is an > option although seeking alliances with soldiers like him speaks > volumes. > > Prior to agreeing a deal to work together to end ?the current > oligarchy? in Kampala, the two met severally over months in the UK, > according to an email from Sejusa. > > In his weekend email, Sejusa said he and Ogole had been leading > their > respective teams of officers, drawn from inside Uganda and in exile. > > Although the details of their discussions remain scanty, both Gen > Sejusa and Col Ogole have confirmed meeting and burying the hatchet, > ostensibly for the ?sake of Uganda?. > > Commenting on his monumental meeting with Colonel Ogole, Sejusa said, > ??for the sake of Uganda, everything is possible, including admitting > past mistakes and moving forward, as a way of atonement. > Reconciliation of the Ugandan people is the only viable way to bring > about sustainable peace in our country. Our mission is to secure the > future of Uganda so we must not use the past to obscure the mission of > today.? > > For his part, Col Ogole, as quoted in Sejusa?s email, said: ??it is > true we have been meeting. Uganda is bigger than all of us. And > everything that can bring peace and reconciliation in our country must > be done irrespective of > history both real and perceived. > > This is a historic opportunity to heal the wounds of our country. It > will advance a sense of nationhood for all the people of Uganda. In > the post-Museveni Uganda, we will all feel that we belong?. > > Last week, the army warned Sejusa that he would be crushed. > > ?The UPDF is a powerful institution, we have defeated over 20 rebel > groups since 1987 so whoever tries to destabilise the country is > joking with fire and will be dealt with, with full force,? said Lt Col > Paddy Ankunda, the army spokesman. > > Who is Ogole? > Sejusa has been in the news headlines since April, when he fled the > country. Shortly after, media reported his dossier in which he > demanded an investigation into a rumoured plot to kill top army and > government officials opposed to the alleged presidential ambitions of > First Son Muhoozi Kainerugaba. > > Brig Muhoozi heads the elite Special Forces Command, > and both the > government and the army have denied that he is eying his father?s job. > > Ogole, now in his 60s, rose through the ranks in the Uganda Army. Now > head of the Lango Elders Council in the UK, he joined the armed forces > in the mid 1960s and served in several positions that included > Adjutant, Commanding Officer; Brigade Commander; Deputy Director of > Records; and Chief of Personnel in the Uganda National Liberation Army > (UNLA). > > Around 1983-5, after attending a military course at Fort Leavenworth, > Kansas, USA, he was deployed in the Luweero Triangle to fight the > rebel NRA led by Museveni. > > It is said Ogole, who came to be known as ?a brilliant battle > technician and chief strategist, commanded operations that gave NRA > fighters a bloody nose, leading to the guerilla group?s temporary > disintegration. > > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > [email protected] > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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