Angry, Awadifo/Ma anjora/Iyete for the update.
C On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:07 AM, anguyo milton <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Charles et al, I will give you some facts in respect of Arua Airport > and services that are available in the questions you raised and the > statements/observations therein. Please feel free to add another > perspective: > > 1. Does it make sense that our brothers and sisters have to fly from Juba > in South Sudan to Kampala and travel by road to (or take > another flight from Entebbe) to west nile? > > My answer: > > Arua Airport is a designated international airport; airports in this > category according to the CAA master plan are airports of entry and exit > for international flights/traffic and perform all services and facilities > related to customs, immigration, health services, quarantine of animals, > plants and similar procedures, in which air transport is provided on a > regular basis.Other airports in the National Master plan designated as > International are Kasese and Pakuba. The following services are however, > current immigration and customs (on arrangement), fire and rescue services, > fuel (on arrangement), meteorological services to mention but a few. > Therefore, one doesn't need to fly from South Sudan to Entebbe and then > travel to Kampala or take another flight from Entebbe to West Nile ! > However, airlines may for economies of scale want to schedule flights that > way and that offers limited opportunities for direct flights between South > Sudan and Arua as it would not sustain economic viability for operators in > the long run. However, adhoc arrangements could be arranged for > non-scheduled flights direct to West Nile as Arua can effectively handle > international flights. > > 2. Assuming that the govt does not plan to upgrade the area airport over > the next 5, 10, 15 years, can our numerous district govts and NRM > ministers make an economic case for the upgrading of Arua airport to an > international airport? > > My answer: > > This assumption is not correct, the CAA National Master Plan envisages a > plan that would extend from 2014 through 2050. The economic aspects are > well articulated in the CAA master plan; specifically they articulate the > benefits i.e investments sunk and the effects in both the short and long > run; the long run effects are envisaged in the productivity growth derived > from the economic activity generated by investments sunk in the upgrading > of the airport.In this respect there will be more jobs, more revenue, > improved transportation infrastructure that will support trade and > tourism,etc to mention but a few. > > The short term effects will comprise direct, indirect and induced effects > at the moment the investment is done and ends when the investment is > complete. The CAA estimates that the combined effects of these investments > from 2014 to 2050 in development of these regional airports to > international status would produce a net economic flow over USD 450 > million, indeed a highly profitable basis for the investments in developing > these airports. > > 3.Having said all the above, the responsibility to construct and elevate > Arua airport to international levels lies squarely on the uganda govt. it > is common sense that bringing Arua airport to an international level > will boost the economy of the region manyfold. It is a question of > ensuring the > region does not have direct airlines with the outside world...something > I attribute to backwardness, tribalism etc as the senior decision makers > have no interest in developing our region other than their won regions. > > My answer: > > Though some aspects of this statement may not be factually accurate or > border on speculation, the fact is the responsibility to construct and > elevate Arua airport is a matter that is in the CAA master plan and I > believe that the CAA should work hard to achieve the full objectives of > that goal as articulated in the master plan. This plan was published in > 2014 and is envisaged to run through 2050-I don't,however, see these being > achieved just soon yet as I believe these will have to be prioritized > accordingly so that the economy can support the infrastructure development > in subsequent Uganda budgets. > > 4. As you may all know, the people who should have been held responsible > and actually pay for the construction of Arua airport are the Arabs. It was > them who brought friction between the Israelis and Amin which led to > kicking out of the Israelis. The arabs should have been made to complete or > pay for the completion of the projects the israelis had started and not > completed! > > My answer: > > Whereas it is true the project may have been affected over the years due > to the political environment in our country, I agree the country needs to > prioritize the implementation of its development plans and creatively work > with partners to overcome infrastructural development challenges, it is > mostly the availability of funding that would affect projects of this > magnitude that are very expensive. > > Milton Anguyo > > Arua,Uganda > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 20/3/16, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 91, Issue 23 > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 20 March, 2016, 21:49 > > Send WestNileNet mailing list > submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Unsubscribe On Behalf of Beatrice > Kamure (Charles Male) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:49:11 -0400 > From: Charles Male <[email protected]> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Unsubscribe On Behalf of Beatrice > Kamure > Message-ID: > > <CAH4CdC1d5fNF+gv8dn7sxY05HUd0FuKCDjyvqPzsA8qWGKG=c...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sorry...had a little more to add... > > Does it make sense that our brothers and sisters have to fly > from Juba in > South Sudan to Kampala and travel by road to (or take > another flight from > entebbe) to west nile? > > Assuming that the govt does not plan to upgrade the area > airport over the > next 5, 10, 15 years, can our numerous district govts and > NRM ministers > make an economic case for the upgrading of Arua airport to > an international > airport? > > > > Perhaps this is an issue westnile net can take up and follow > (if i > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Charles Male <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > While there is no doubt that many, including myself, > have learnt a lot > > from bro Hussein's writings, we have at certain point > in time over the last > > few years encouraged him to channel some of the > enormous energy he has > > towards other more tangible projects in west nile. > Given his great research > > skills and writing abilities, for example, helping > start community > > newspapers in would greatly help in providing young > people -- graduates - > > internship opportunities where they would learn not > only how to write but > > other skills such as project mgmt, etc etc.. > > > > Honouring Amin by Museveni? Not in a million > years!!! am more inclined to > > believe that even when the Good Lord calls Museveni > back to heaven, he > > (LORD) will have to erect a permanent electrical fence > between Amin and > > Museveni as Museveni will more likely be looking for > opportunities for a > > good fight with Amin. Even though GOD will remind > Museveni that he owes > > his presidency to Amin's taking power from Obote, > Museveni will have none > > of that, instead, will continue with the intense hatred > he developed for > > Amin here on earth! > > > > As you may all know, the people who should have been > held responsible and > > actually pay for the construction of Arua airport are > the Arabs. It was > > them who brought friction between the Israelis and Amin > which led to > > kicking out of the Israelis. The arabs should have been > made to complete or > > pay for the completion of the projects the israelis had > started and not > > completed! Besides the Amin family, we do have people > in westnile and made > > who could use their connections with the arab world who > could remind them > > about projects that the israelis did not complete > because they promised > > Amin heaven if uganda cut off relations with israel and > joined the arab > > world instead. > > > > Having said all the above, the responsibility to > construct and elevate > > Arua airport to international levels lies squarely on > the uganda govt. it > > is common sense that bringing Arua airport to an > international level will > > boost the economy of the region manyfold. It is a > question of ensuring the > > region does not have direct airlines with the outside > world...something i > > attribute to backwardness, tribalism etc as the senior > decision makers have > > no interest in developing our region other than their > won regions. The > > Kenya and Canadian govts understand the importance of > linking their > > countries internationally for economic reasons that is > why they have built > > international airports in more than one city. Their > airports were NOT built > > to honour their past leaders BUT were renamed to > recognize those leaders. > > > > For us ugandans, we have to wait for the british > to come and tell us to > > allow international flights to fly into Arua or other > airports besides > > Entebbe. I remember years ago when I had a conversation > with a senior > > NRA/UPDF officer and the issue of Arua airport not > being upgraded to an > > international airport crept into the conversation. When > I asked him why the > > govt wasn't upgrading the airport, his answer was that > they did not want > > the airport to be used to ship in guns from abroad for > west nile rebel > > groups!!!!! > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:34 AM, JohnAJackson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Thank you Vasco for your contribution. While I > agree with your definition > >> of a leader/leadership, my statement picked one of > the things leaders do. > >> My message was to direct our brother Husein to look > at creative initiatives > >> in order to remember his dad. > >> > >> - While I agree with political > patronage in Uganda as you have > >> stated, effective lobbying skills > seems to get regional leaders a piece of > >> the pie from the top boss. This is a > common pattern almost in most > >> countries where a government does not > have a full grip on infrastructure > >> development and prioritization. > >> - Our brother Husein has been > lecturing people on this forum for a > >> long time. I was simply throwing up > some creative ideas to think about. If > >> you have passed through Kenya, you > probably flew through Jomo Kenyata > >> International airport. You probably > have heard of McDonald Cartier > >> International Airport, Pearson > International airport, the list goes on and > >> on. These are structures built by the > government in honor of their leaders. > >> I am aware that in Uganda's situation > this is not the case. I am ware that > >> the top boss tends to support or favor > people who support him 100%. > >> - Building Arua airport would be a > good investment for the government > >> and the people in this region. May be > this should be a development agenda > >> which our people should pursue > seriously. The economic benefits cannot be > >> overstated. This is the second busies > airport in Uganda next to Entebbe. > >> Assuming there was a a natural > disaster at Entebbe like a flood or > >> something odd for 2-3 months. Where > would big planes land in Uganda today? > >> - For instance converting Idi Amin's > home at Tanganyika village in > >> Arua into a Museum or building a > museum in his honor in Arua would be a > >> good project where a generation of > people who did not know about Amin would > >> be able to know about his > achievements. Alternatively, publishing several > >> books about Amin's biography would be > a great asset that would remain for > >> generations. These are permanent > historical assets that would remain for > >> ever. > >> - Honestly, I do not see the value of > passing oral literature as our > >> brother Husein has been lecturing for > the last two years. How many people > >> are excited or interested in this kind > of stuff? This is the same problem > >> we all face where our father and grand > father passed the history of West > >> Nile by oral literature. As that world > war generation died off, this > >> history is fading off. in another 50 > years to come, we may not find people > >> who can tell the history of West Nile, > the Belgian wars with the British. > >> - A few years ago, People from the > West Nile region wanted a > >> university. We all collaborated > effectively and shared fantastic ideas on > >> how to get started. Muni NTC was > converted to a university which is > >> operational today. Our struggle now is > to ensure children/people from West > >> Nile region take advantage of the > University they had been crying for. It > >> has created employment opportunities > for a few people. > >> - My message is to encourage all of us > to focus on productive project > >> initiative that bring value to this > region. > >> - Thank you > >> - JJ > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Vasco Oguzua > <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >>> Leadership is not only about problem solving. > Leadership is much more > >>> than problem solving. Leadership requires a lot > of critical thinking to > >>> inquire, scrutinize, digest, > analyze, and formulate and identify possible > >>> solutions to a problem. When people jump to > prescribe what they think are > >>> solutions to problems without quite evaluating > and understanding the > >>> problem and the environment within which the > problem manifests itself, that > >>> in itself becomes a huge more complex black box > problem. In basic systems > >>> analysis, problems identified as Black Box are > more complex to solve > >>> because the box has quite a mix of unknown > factors in the system's > >>> environment driving the system in unknown > measurements and scale. > >>> > >>> While John is every time suggesting solutions > to problems in West Nile > >>> which in most cases he associates to lack of > leadership, I always kind of > >>> wonder if he carefully and thoroughly examines > the the problems from the > >>> various aspects of development (structural, > economic, political, social, > >>> mental, etc) before suggesting some of these > solutions. > >>> Without careful evaluation and analysis of some > of these aspects of the > >>> problems, > >>> I will beg to say that though some of the > solutions he suggest may sound > >>> good on paper they are shallow and hollow in > addressing the problems. > >>> The Building of the Arua Airport should not be > framed as something > >>> Amin's son, Hussein Lumumba should go and beg > Museveni for. I wonder what > >>> news John reads or listens to for him to > suggest that Hussein should go to > >>> Museveni to ask him for money to build Arua > Airport in memory and honor of > >>> his late dad. > >>> Up to this day if John does not know that among > all the past heads of > >>> state or former presidents of Uganda, the most > denigrated, abused, insulted > >>> and if I may add hated person even at death by > Museveni is Amin. How dare > >>> John suggest that Hussein should go and beg > Museveni for money to build > >>> Arua Airport to honour his late dad!!! > >>> If up to this day, the Presidential emoluments > past presidents and their > >>> families are entitled to, which I think is > written in the Constitution of > >>> Uganda has likely not been > >>> paid to the Amin family, what on earth is this > handshake John is talking > >>> about. > >>> Sometime back in one of the national > newspapers, I read Hussein Lumumba > >>> expressing his disgust with the government over > the failure of the > >>> government to pay what is due to the family. > Why should the government not > >>> pay the emoluments to the Amin family when he > was a head is state and was a > >>> civil servant of the government and entitled to > those emoluments as > >>> prescribed in the laws of Uganda. > >>> > >>> If John upto this time has not quite understood > the politics of > >>> patronage, nepotism, corruption, military > dictatorship in today's Uganda > >>> and its physical , social, mental, > economic and political effects, then it > >>> would be advisable for him to go and research > and analyze some of these > >>> basic issues before he begins to assert the > lack of leadership in West > >>> Nile, and thus lack of development in the > region. > >>> > >>> The development of Arua Airport should not in > anyway be a favour to the > >>> people of West Nile where Hussein should go and > beg Museveni so as to honor > >>> the late Amin. Amin may have made his > mistakes but who among Uganda' s > >>> leaders has not. history will judge all the > Ugandan leaders. But the > >>> suggestion of asking Hussein to go and beg > Museveni for money for the > >>> airport to honor Amin was a regrettable > statement. Why not ask the MPs who > >>> are kneeling and sucking to Museveni as if he > owns Uganda for > >>> municipalities, districts, and city status in > the name of bringing services > >>> nearer to the people! What I do not > understand is how John's assertion of > >>> lack of leadership in West Nile has to do > with Hussein going to ask > >>> Museveni for money to build Arua Airport in > honor of his late dad. > >>> I am not sure if John knows or understands > under what jurisdiction the > >>> Airport falls and the development of the > Airport should never be a favour > >>> to West Nile, but a government development > project to improve > >>> infrastructure and services that improve the > economic and social welfare of > >>> the country not only the people of West Nile. > If the Airport was in control > >>> of the district government and district > government leaders failed to > >>> develop it, I think the blame of lack > leadership in the region would be a > >>> fair statement. > >>> Even in this kind scenario, other political, > economic factors would > >>> still need to be considered before apportioning > any blame on the leaders. > >>> > >>> I am sure John is aware of the problems Retired > Bishop of Arua Diocese > >>> ,Fr. Drandua, endured some years back about the > plans to building Nyagak > >>> Dam before it was given to the current Museveni > croonies ! I wonder if John > >>> is aware of why the Arua- Rhinocamp, road > via Terego and the road from > >>> Arua to Lodonga still through Terego is not > built. Now that Kassiano Wadri > >>> is no longer the MP of Terego, I am sure the > building of the road must be > >>> in high gear. > >>> The point I am trying to make here is that the > politics of patronage and > >>> corruption and mediocre government officials > who have no development goals > >>> but rather corruption has destroyed the fabric > of Uganda and West Nile our > >>> region inclusive. > >>> The partition of the region in the name of > service delivery has never > >>> delivered any services other than unnecessarily > huge administrative > >>> expenditure with the huge number of MPs whose > bottom line in the money. > >>> Look for example at the politics a of patronage > in Koboko county with a > >>> population of probably less than 300,000 > people. Why would such a > >>> population need 4 MPs to represent such a > small population that could be > >>> represented by one MP. With all this Patronage > how is Koboko better than > >>> other areas in West Nile with fewer MPs > >>> > >>> The lack of serious development in West Nile is > not lack of leadership, > >>> but something I associate with political > patronage and lack free > >>> environment for people to determine their > destiny. If the Museveni > >>> government is removed and political freedom is > established where people > >>> make honest decisions for their destiny, it > will not take long for West > >>> Nile region to develop. > >>> > >>> My personal opinion > >>> Vasco > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 6:58 AM, JohnAJackson > <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> LEADERSHIP & PROBLEM SOLVING > >>> > >>> - Leadership is all about problem > solving. Good leaders rally people > >>> around solving a common problem > >>> - Back in 1970's, Arua airport was > being upgraded to International > >>> standards at a time when Idi Amin > was in power. This project was abandoned > >>> at the climax of Palestinian > Israel conflict. All it left was valleys by > >>> soil erosion and Israelis left off > with our beautiful top soil leaving > >>> behind barren land. > >>> - This would be a perfect project > where Husein could go to M7 and > >>> ask for money to rebuild this > airport in honor of his dad. Hopefully, M7 > >>> would give Husein money as a hand > sake and good gesture. > >>> - Rebuilding this airport as the > second largest and busiest airport > >>> in Uganda could generate perhaps > 100 to 200 jobs or more. The macroeconomic > >>> impact of this project could spin > off other jobs for instance warehousing, > >>> restaurants, hotels, etc. > >>> - Rebuilding Arua airport could > open both passenger and cargo > >>> traffic to DR Congo and South > Sudan. Instead of politicking this issue, our > >>> leaders should look at business > opportunities we are not exploiting or > >>> taking seriously. We need to look > at opportunity cost. > >>> - A decade ago, another MP who > became a minister ran on this > >>> platform and promised that he > would rebuild this airport. I do not want to > >>> give names. Many of you on this > forum will remember the beating of those > >>> empty drums a decade ago. > >>> - Ladies and gentleman, let us > face reality of problems facing this > >>> region. Some of the problems > facing us require simple dialogue with > >>> stakeholders. Let's try to look at > simple problems within our reach. Let > >>> us start talking about simple > issues we can solve. Big issues that require > >>> government intervention let's > involve our political leaders from this > >>> region to lobby the government to > correct some of the problems. This is the > >>> very reason why we elected > representatives. > >>> - Above all, let us have > intellectual and respectful discussion over > >>> some of this problems. Shying > away, quitting the forum is not a gateway to > >>> problem resolution. Let us figure > some way to take matters we discuss in > >>> this forum to the community. > >>> - There are hundreds of highly > qualified people on this forum from > >>> various professions. Don't be a > silent listener. Contribute brilliant ideas > >>> on how we can address some of the > challenges facing us as a community. > >>> - Thank you > >>> - JJ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 4:08 AM, Mail Service > Team < > >>> [email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear John, > >>>> Bravo, you have got it RIGHT. > >>>> Let our bro Hussein join Authors Forum in > writing books and making > >>>> documentaries of our Late President Amin's > Life series in Kampala for > >>>> making money to support westnile problem > sloution and Amins family form a > >>>> credible AMIN FOUNDATION for which we can > subscribe to as members.CAN this > >>>> forum help us organise THINK TANK > Innovations of both physical meetings and > >>>> media networking. > >>>> For my sister Kamure, opting out is never a > solution,face the frying > >>>> pans.Don't go away for we need you. > >>>> Nice week end. > >>>> Cliff > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:22 PM, > JohnAJackson <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Dear brothers and sisters, > >>>>> > >>>>> - While Idi Amin did great > things at his time, I think time has > >>>>> come where we need to > encourage junior Amin to write volumes and volumes of > >>>>> books on his dad's past > life. This is best way to retain knowledge so that > >>>>> younger generations can > read it later. Bombarding this forum with Idi Amin > >>>>> stuff has become > unpalatable, boring and makes no more sense. Perhaps > >>>>> majority of us > communicating in this forum were kids during Amin's regime > >>>>> and never saw the benefit > of his presidency in West Nile region. Correct me > >>>>> if I am wrong. > >>>>> - We have serious social > and economic development challenges > >>>>> facing our region we need > to come together as a team and address some of > >>>>> the problems. Doing > nothing only continues to hurt a generation of youth > >>>>> some of whom are our > nephews, nieces, cousins, sisters, brothers or even > >>>>> our own children. > >>>>> - For instance look at > youth unemployment in this region. There is > >>>>> nearly 80-90 % school drop > out rate at all levels. Where do some of these > >>>>> youth end up? Just > roaming in towns or villages doing nothing but drinking > >>>>> alcohol, smoking > marijuana, Mirraa, etc. > >>>>> - Do we really need > government intervention to stop or reduce some > >>>>> of these obvious problems > in our community? Some of the issues need > >>>>> engaging our communities > in finding productive solutions right from the > >>>>> grassroots level. > Educating people and empowering them through mass media > >>>>> could go a long way in > solving some these problems or saving our community > >>>>> from self destruction. > >>>>> - It may sound like > a joking matter to say "why do I have to care > >>>>> about people who do not > care about themselves"? In any place where there > >>>>> are thousands of idle > people, crime rates go up. Issues like starvation > >>>>> will continue to haunt > this region as older hard working generation die > >>>>> off. Mental health issues > is on rise. Should we wait for the government to > >>>>> come and rescue us? > >>>>> - I think it time we all > come together and harness our human > >>>>> potential from these forum > or region and take the wild bull in our own > >>>>> hands before it gets out > of control. > >>>>> - Are we going to raise a > generation of youth whose job is only > >>>>> SECURITY GUARDS in Kampala > & CASAVU in the sugar estates? Brothers and > >>>>> sisters, lets think > twice! > >>>>> > >>>>> JJ > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Mail > Service Team < > >>>>> [email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Westnilers, > >>>>>> Greetings to you all. > >>>>>> I do hope this social network > forum is meant for sharing tangible > >>>>>> issues of paramount interest of our > region than merely > >>>>>> politicking propaganda with NO > substantive benefits. > >>>>>> Majority of our regional issues > require mutual solutions at both > >>>>>> personal and community level with > minimal political interventions. > >>>>>> Does our young youth spending 90% > of their time smoking the Sudanese > >>>>>> kind of intoxicated Smoke in towns > and Chewing mairungi and people relying > >>>>>> on mairungi farming, for > subsistence, poor education performance in both > >>>>>> primary and secondary need > political solution? > >>>>>> What have we done at both > individual and forum level than always > >>>>>> lamentations on other peoples" > affairs. > >>>>>> Thank you Admin. > >>>>>> Cliff > >>>>>> Tel:+256782308172 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:57 AM, > Beatrice A < > >>>>>> [email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Admin, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I concur with Jimmy, kindly > unsubscribe me from this mailing list. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Beatrice Kamure > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *From:* WestNileNet [mailto:[email protected]] > *On Behalf > >>>>>>> Of *Jimmy Awuzu Angubo > >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2016 > 8:11 PM > >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] > >>>>>>> *Subject:* [WestNileNet] > Unsubscribe > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Admin, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Could you kindly unsubscribe me > from this mailing list, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jimmy Awuzu Angubo > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> WestNileNet mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> WestNileNet is generously > hosted by INFOCOM > >>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The above comments and data are > owned by whoever posted them > >>>>>>> (including attachments if any). > The List's Host is not responsible for them > >>>>>>> in any way. > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> WestNileNet mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >>>>>> > >>>>>> WestNileNet is generously hosted by > INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The above comments and data are > owned by whoever posted them > >>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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