Drazen Kacar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Provided that there are some maintainers left. 

There is according to the swift reply I got to my libtool mailing list post
the other day.

> I think I deleted the part where you said it would be more productive
> to do something about the whole thing instead of telling developers not
> to use libtool. (Or something to that effect, sorry if it's not a good
> enough quote). You're right, of course. But I'm not telling the developers
> that they should not use libtool. I'm only telling them that they
> shouldn't promote libtool as an infrastructure which solves linking
> problems, because it doesn't. 

Sure it does.  It just doesn't solve _all_ of them.

> That inevitably leads to pointing out some of libtool's failures, from
> which one might draw the conclusion that I'm advocating banishing libtool,
> but I don't think I wrote that. I think it should rest in peace.

I fail to see the distinction between "banishing" something and letting it
"rest in peace".

> But keep in mind that it's not a catch-all solution and don't
> promote it as such.

I don't believe anyone's been doing that.  You seem to be knee-jerking in
response to other libtool debates you've had in the past (a long history of
them, it would appear).

> As far as wget is concerned, it wouldn't be a big problem to handle
> whatever the final decision brings. I would personally prefer a configure
> script which just checks for the library and header locations. It could
> use run-path flag as a default, provided that there is a way to stop it
> from doing that (since there's no way it can tell wheteher I want
> -R/usr/local/lib or -R$ORIGIN/../lib, for example). 

As I've said, you can override anything you want at make-time.  Since most
people won't want or need to disable libtool, this seems acceptable.  Feel
free to send in a configure --without-libtool patch once the code has
stabilized, however, if you feel very strongly that the overriding behavior
needs to be at the configure-level rather than at the make-level.  (It's
true that it's more convenient that way, since you can just type `make'
rather than having to include all your overriding variables each time you
re-make.)

> If it doesn't work on some platform, people will send patches. Another
> reason not to use complicated build tools unless really necessary is that
> you limit the user base which can send patches.

Huh?

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