Can't agree more, we replaced Spectrum with WhatsUp Gold, Spectrum was
$50,000 initial purchase and 6,500 yearly support and did a lot of crap that
we never touched and was impossible to use.  The bean counters here are
thrilled with $1095 (even though I still haven't gotten around to upgrading
to 7.0)

Our Cisco tech turned us on to WhatsUp, he said all of the tech's there love
it.



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Kurtis,

I believe the only place you can buy it is from ipswitch.com.   Correct me
if I
am wrong.  I estimate that the $795 price-tag  ($1095 with support) saves us
tens of thousands of dollars per year.

Shmuel.



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Thank you Jeff and Mark for brightening up an unusually slow day.  I was
hoping for a decent cat fight over this...  After serious consideration, I
have to side with Jeff on this one.  Here is Mark's question;

OK, but how would I monitor that server's performance with Performance
Monitor from my Win 2000 machine to that server?

This definitely sounds like a newbie question to me.  ;)  Mark, tone down
the ego a bit.  We all ask dumb sounding questions from time to time.
Hell, I do one a day at least.  I been doing this IT thing for almost ten
years now and you got my respect for administering Unix and NT.

Now, I have a serious question for the discussion group.  I downloaded the
Whats Up Gold demo and it works great.  I talked the bean counters into
giving me the money to buy a legit copy.

Anyone know where I can buy a copy of Whats Up Gold 7.0 for a decent price?

Thanks in advance;   Kurtis Johnston
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Again. wasn't meant as a put down.  From a one sentence e-mail I have no
idea of your abilities.  Just a friendly warning if you happened to be one
of those inexperienced newbies that pop up on all lists with questions, get
in over there head, then get in trouble and expect immediate answers from
the list to fix things like they would from tech support.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:18 AM
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Jeff,

Thanks for the tip.  I am a Windows NT/2000 and SUN SOLARIS Administrator,
I
know how to use Performance Manager to monitor the local box and I know how
to use other tools to monitor boxes, the question I had was how to monitor
another computer via Performance Manager.  I, myself, administer over 50
servers in 5 different Colo's.  I don't think this is the place for
comments
stated in your e-mail.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Brady, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:52 AM
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Start...Control Panel...Admin tools...Performance..Click the "+" button to
add a counter...there is a drop down box to pick the machine you want to
monitor, not just the local machine.  If this is to be an on going monitor,
you probably want to do a log instead of a real time chart.  I would also
change the counter from one second to a minute or more.

Not being a smart ass or anything, but honestly - If you don't even know
how
to use performance monitor, pick up some books and do some reading before
you attempt to admin live servers.  If your a Unix or other OS guy please
don't take that as an insult, just imagine me as a Windows guy sitting down
at a live Solaris install and doing stuff with my only training being
messages I read on a mailing list.

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Ok, but how would I monitor that server's performance with Performance
Monitor from my Win 2000 machine to that server?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brady, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [WhatsUp Forum] FW: Memory Via SNMP

If it is many machine, try MRTG or one of the Somix products that makr MRTG
easier to use.  If it is just one machine, don't bother with SNMP and use
the built-in Performance Monitor

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All,

How would we go about monitoring a Windows 2000 Machine's memory and CPU
utilization with SNMP??????

Mark



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