On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:36:30 +0300, dolphinling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ian Hickson wrote:
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This still doesn't "force" it to work. As a user-tracking-implementer doing it for money, I want to make absolutely sure I count properly. That means forcing people to hit the counter _before_ even telling them where they're going, so they can't get around it. There's no way to do this with ping=.

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The audience of people who would use tracking is huge. The audience of people who would use ping= is, for the reasons I said before, much much smaller.

Like I said before, I like the semantics of ping=. But it doesn't fit into the usage model that advertisers and other trackers want. Semantically, I want notification and linking to be separate. In usage, they want them to be linked. They seem to me to be mutually exclusive.

You have a point. Yet, you shouldn't forget that most of the tracking done today by advertisers is with JavaScript, with Flash :(, with iframes, and in general with ugly stuff that can be disabled.

You'll see the point I'll be making in another reply.

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