On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:16:14 +0200, James Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
About right except there is a mechanism in the W3C work for adding new values, which don't make it non-conforming. Given that people are pretty inventive, I think that is quite valuable. YMMV

I don't see the point; if someone makes a value up and UAs don't support it then it is worthless, if UAs do support it then it should become part of the next HTML spec. I can't imagine how auto-discovery of new widget types would work (maybe I should read the RDF Taxonomy spec but I can't stomach it),

Yes, if you want to know how this is expected to work I guess you should. The benefit is that it might be 8 months between new specs, and 8 days between new inventions and people suffering because they have no way to use them, and an auto-discovery mechanism that doesn't always rely on writing a new spec would be an improvement on that.

and I can't think of any similar auto-discovery technology that is widely by authors. I guess allowing a predefined list of values and vendor extensions like role="ms-ribbon" might be a suitable compromise between innovation and ease of use.

The RDF solution at least provides for a workable auto-discovery mechanism. Which means that vendors don't just spend their time chasing down other vendors' extensions manually. I'm not sure that the gap between the two is worthwhile. In principle I would rather see things invalid than magic lists. In practice I suspecting I am making water towards the oncoming wind - vendors would do it anyway - which is why I support the RDF thing.

(Plus I am one of those people who can write RDF easily, or find a tool to do it for me, but cannot stomach anything that says "first just write a script"...)

Cheers

Chaals

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