Steve, good points...

 

It's also important to remember that this functionality would be an opt-in 
system - unlike your cell phone :) The prototype that we are working on would 
allow the browser to point to a COM port where it could find a GPS device or 
any NMEA-compatible device or software. It would then read the NMEA stream over 
the COM port and use that to deliver the user's location to the website via the 
DOM.

 

Our software positions you based on WiFi triangulation and can emulate a GPS 
device by streaming NMEA over  a virtual COM port so that the user wouldn't 
need to have a dedicated GPS antennae.

 

From: Steve Runyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:48 PM
To: Ryan Sarver
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Geolocation in the browser

 

Makes sense to me.  And while the privacy issues that others have brought up 
are real, it does seem doable to make it user-configurable.  Perhaps the first 
time the user hits a site that wants to know where they are they have the 
more-or-less standard "disallow/allow this time/always allow" options?  

 

And as with cell phones (which in the US at least must include location info 
when the user dials 911 for help), there should be reasonable guarantees that 
intelligence agencies and law enforcement can't activate the locator 
unbeknownst to the user without a search warrant. 

 

On 2/21/07, Ryan Sarver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

That's a good point. I think you're right that the "navigator" object might 
make more sense:

 

// Example

var location = navigator.getLocation()

alert(location.latitude+', '+location.longitude);

 

thoughts?

 

From: Steve Runyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:27 PM
To: Ryan Sarver
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Geolocation in the browser

 

You couldn't use window.location because that's already used:  "the location 
object represents information about the URL of any currently open window or of 
a specific frame" (Danny Goodman, JavaScript Bible 4e, p 486).  How about the 
navigator object? 



 

On 2/21/07, Ryan Sarver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

David,

The ICBM standard is for geotagging the actual content whereas we are talking 
about a standard that lets the content know the location of the User or device 
so that the website can be location-aware. 

I want to use as much of the existing standards, but have more questions about 
where it should exist in ecosystem and how servers and webpages would expect to 
see it and use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Latapie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:56 PM
To: Ryan Sarver 
Cc: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Geolocation in the browser

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:31:11 -0500, Ryan Sarver wrote: 
>  - would it make sense to also expose it in the request headers? This
> way the server receives it on the first request as opposed to through 
> the client after the initial page request
>
> 
>
> User-Geolocation: 43.338018, -71.817930

Surely you've heard of ICBM
(<meta name="ICBM" content="46.025507, 14.300186" />)

Could elaborate on what you like and dislike on this? 
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