Hi

sorry I wasn't responding last week; I was out of the office, catching up today. Thanks for all the comments!

On the question of whether a video or audio tag should mention the codecs: we're really very supportive of the need for convergence and interoperability. For example, I took a video iPod to an MPEG meeting a week or two after its intro, and at the meeting I got five companies, using their own H.264 and AAC and file format implementations, to build files that would play on it. We've actively helped 3rd parties be compatible with the iPod and iTunes. We really do believe in this stuff.

We also have been sometimes openly critical of licensing terms and problems around codecs; we supported the attempt to get a a royalty-free baseline for H.264, for example. We recognize the value of research and invention, but we also realize that to realize a value from a use of those inventions, the use has to happen and make business sense. It's a balance...

So, in a sense, you are arguing with friends; we agree on the goal - interop and convergence - and maybe disagree on how to get there. We do feel, however, that the HTML spec. is not the place to achieve it in video and audio. Some have cited the SVG spec. and its mandate of Ogg, and broad adoption of SVG in mobile, as a positive example. But alas, all this mandate did was cause 3GPP to write in their streaming spec., where SVG use is defined:

NOTE 2: Only codecs and MIME media types supported by PSS, as specified in clause 7 and in subclause 5.4, respectively, shall be used. In particular, PSS clients are not required to support the Ogg Vorbis format.


We really feel that the HTML spec. should say no more about video and audio formats than it does about image formats (which is merely to give examples), and we should strive independently for audio/video convergence. We'd really like to discuss the 'meat' of the proposal -- the tags, the CSS, and so on!


By the way, these three bodies are quite distinct:
1. MPEG, a working group of the joint ISO/IEC technical committee, that sets standards
2. MPEGIF, an industry forum that exists to promote MPEG standards
3. MPEG-LA, a commercial entity who represent a pool of IPR owners for licensing associated with some MPEG standards

Hope this helps...
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David Singer
Apple Computer/QuickTime

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