On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:10:02 +0200, Tim Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Okay, sorry if there is a bunch of discussion I'm missing on this, but
I've never been able to find it, and the archive search showed no
discussion relating to this. I feel the LH died an untimely death. I
think it's amusing to see the back tracking from that concept inherent
in some of the more generalized section/header nesting in the w3c's
later specs. I also understand that the more explicit approach shared
in these specs will resolve a lot of this and the addition of nav
and/or menu, but....
<lh> being returned would be really nice, imho.
I have bookmarked this link bookmarked, where list headers are being
discussed:
http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448982
...with a comment tied to the bookmark: "do we need
headers/labels/captions/legends for lists?"
What it provides over using a <h1> is that it won't be part of the
document outline. (Why shouldn't it?)
What it provides over using a paragraph preceding the list is... well, I'm
not sure, but apparently the list caption is not considered to be a
paragraph by authors.
I tried to find use-cases for list headers, where it is desired that they
not be part of the document outline. The people discussing in the
aforementioned thread could not provide any real use-cases, AFAICT.
One use-case could be to use a list as a figure of sorts, but then we
already have <figure>, so we could just allow lists to go in <figure> and
then we can give them captions. (It doesn't cover nested lists though.)
Are there other use-cases that warrant the inclusion of a "list header"
element?
It would have been
really nice if it was in 4.0 and then 1.x, but better late then never.
It's always been annoyed at having the choice of bare text (a pain to
style and script) in the li, followed by a block element, or a
semantically useless span. This would be especially helpful since
most of the list elements seem to not be sectioning elements, thus
have no way to do the equivalent:
<ol>
<lh>A list on stuff</lh>
<li>I, Item</li>
<li>
<ol>
<lh>Item, the God</lh>
<li>Plot synopsis</li>
<li>Characters</li>
<li>Stunning conclusion</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
How is this better than the following?:
<h1>A list on stuff</h1>
<ol>
<li>I, Item</li>
<li>Item, the God
<ol>
<li>Plot synopsis</li>
<li>Characters</li>
<li>Stunning conclusion</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ol>
(Or using <p> instead of <h1>?)
--
Simon Pieters
