At 19:04  -0500 11/12/07, Jeff McAdams wrote:
Dave Singer wrote:
 At 13:45  -0500 11/12/07, Fernando wrote:
 Please reconsider the decision to exclude the recommendation of the
 Theora/OGG Vorbis codec in HTML 5 guidelines.

 This entire discussion is founded on a major misapprehension:  that
 there has been a decision, and that decision was to exclude.  This is
 simply not true;  there is no decision either to include or exclude.
 There is a recognition that work is needed.

 I and others have spent a great deal of time on this problem already,
 working with a number of people, including the W3C staff.  Many of us --
 maybe all of us -- agree we need to find a solution that enables broad
 interoperability and is in accord with w3c and web practices. We have
 not yet reached consensus on having found it.  That's all.

A decision was made to move away from using the ogg family of
technologies.

No.

A decision was made to have the text reflect the facts that (a) no-one is happy with a 'should' and (b) that work is ongoing to find a solution (which might be Ogg, or something else). That's all.

While not a final decision, it is a threatening decision
to those of us that value freedom and openness and don't appreciate
being screwed by big companies.



Listen to what the people are saying.

Oh, I am listening. It's by no means clear that the Ogg crowd is at all. I'm also spending efforts working on finding a solution. I don't count lamenting "I want my ogg" on this list as spending efforts at all.
--
David Singer
Apple/QuickTime

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