Stijn Peeters wrote:
As I said, a SHOULD requirement in the specification which will (given the
current status quo) not be followed by the major(ity of) browser vendors is
useless and should be improved so it is a recommendation which at least can
be implemented. Changing the SHOULD to MUST means that a lot of browser
vendors would not be able to develop a conforming implementation.
Governments do generally not build browsers or HTML parsers so an HTML
specification would likely not influence them much, and I believe they are
not who such a specification is aimed at.

This is a tired argument already debunked. The browsers that won't support OGG support plugins (and still remain HTML5 compliant). The recommendation will push other browsers (of which there are many) towards a common ground.

As stated before, it did not advocate them, merely stated them as *examples*
of image formats. Your claim that HTML4 played a substantial role in
adoption of GIF and JPEG is interesting. Do you have any sources for that?
Yes.
(http://www.houseofmabel.com/programs/html3/docs/img.html). I quote:
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As "progress" increases the number of graphics types I've been asked to support in /HTML3/, many people are unsure as to exactly what formats are supported so perhaps a list is in order:

   * GIF (&695, "GIF")
   * PNG (&B60, "PNG")
   * JPEG (&C85, "JPEG")
   * Sprite (&FF9, "Sprite")
   * BMP (&69C, "BMP")
   * SWF (&188, "Flash")
   * WBMP (&F8F, "WBMP")

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So which of the above became defacto web standards under HTML4? And there were a LOT more image formats out there. Not proof, but certainly evidence the spec helped narrow down the list. Even though it was neither a SHOULD or MUST specification they were mentioned and it seems to me that counts for something. So did the fact the formats in question were believed to be public-domain. However, I acknowledge the speculative nature of this as I acknowledge the speculative nature of your other claims (like browser manufactures not supporting OGG when the spec becomes final).

Shannon

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